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> I have a cottage about a mile off the paved road. The first > half of the > gravel road has 25 degree down slopes and the second half has > 25 degree up > slopes. It can have several feet of wet Northeast snow. > > 5 years ago I tried taking a Rav4 4wd in with about 6" of > snow. I got to > the midpoint, but it just spun on the uphill. Fortunately it > did better > going back on it's own tire tracks. > > How would a Ford F250 4x4 do? I have access to a 1995 rigged > for > snowplowing. What depth of snow could it reliably handle. > > Needless to say, I know nothing about 4x4s, except that I will > not be trying > my wife's Grand Caravan 4wd. it doesnt sound like hes trying to plow a new road through artic tundra, just make it through a possible 6in-1ft of snow. Chains on an F250 should do that w/o much problem. make sure you got some weight in the back (atleast a few hundred over the axles). then to be safe get yourself a pullpal and a good strong rope, pullbar, sand/kitty litter, and a shovel. keep moving and if u get stuck dont dig yourself in, stop spinning the tires right away and start using your supplies. but outside of chains you only need a few $ worth of supplies to be ok ($5-20), and less than $500 to be fully equipted with anything you may need. -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/4X4-kind-s...ict131673.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=644385 |
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"xmirage2kx" wrote:
>it doesnt sound like hes trying to plow a new road through artic >tundra, just make it through a possible 6in-1ft of snow. Chains on an >F250 should do that w/o much problem. make sure you got some weight in >the back (atleast a few hundred over the axles). then to be safe get >yourself a pullpal and a good strong rope, pullbar, sand/kitty litter, >and a shovel. keep moving and if u get stuck dont dig yourself in, >stop spinning the tires right away and start using your supplies. but >outside of chains you only need a few $ worth of supplies to be ok >(-20), and less than 0 to be fully equipted with anything you may >need. Better off with a lighter vehical the size of a Jeep cherokee or the like with good clearance and wheel well room for chains if it is bad. It is a lot either to get a 3o00 to 4000 lb vehical going again in snow that a 6000 to 9000 lb one when you get hung up. |
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"SnoMan" wrote:
> [quote:1138585bb1="xmirage2kx"]it doesnt sound like hes trying > to plow a new road through artic tundra, just make it through > a possible 6in-1ft of snow. Chains on an F250 should do that > w/o much problem. make sure you got some weight in the back > (atleast a few hundred over the axles). then to be safe get > yourself a pullpal and a good strong rope, pullbar, sand/kitty > litter, and a shovel. keep moving and if u get stuck dont dig > yourself in, stop spinning the tires right away and start > using your supplies. but outside of chains you only need a few > $ worth of supplies to be ok ($5-20), and less than $500 to be > fully equipted with anything you may need.[/quote:1138585bb1] > > Better off with a lighter vehical the size of a Jeep cherokee > or the like with good clearance and wheel well room for chains > if it is bad. It is a lot either to get a 3o00 to 4000 lb > vehical going again in snow that a 6000 to 9000 lb one when > you get hung up. Fair enough. my car of choice would be a wangler or a zooki (i know its almost a crime to mention them in the same sentance). Ive seen them both go through some pretty tough stuff. used would be roughly $6-7K for what you would need; but if your lookin to bum your buddies rig, I’d say it will do fine. (snoman does have a good point thoe, if you get stuck the extra 3ooo lbs will not be your friend) |
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You don't day how wide your road is, which can be important also. If it
is wide, and you're plowing snow uphill, always angle the snow off of the road, back up, and angle the plow the other way, pushing the snow of the other side. "Try" not to get the rear wheels in to the area that is not cleared. This way will take much longer to complete your task, but you won't have to worry about the snow rolling off of the plow and going underneath your vehicle burying yourself. All of the other emergency equipment the other posters mentioned is necessary too, but keep a heavy blanket and some matches and candles with you for warmth in case you do get stuck. It also isn't a bad idea to keep scraps of old carpet with you for an added traction device to be used in conjunction with the sand/cat litter. MFP Main Force Plower |
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Ive spend a lifetime driving in the Backroads of N.M. on Regular
Pickups and 4x4s and all kinds of Trucks Chevy, Dodges, Fords and the Best Security for Getting out of Bad Places is a Long Handled Shovel I never leave home without one its great for killing Rattlesnakes. Water, matches,Flashlight are very important and a good Accurate Pistol my preference is a 22 LR single Action Cowboy Style they are the most Accurate for Shooting Rabbits or even bringing down a deer if you were to Break down out in the Middle of Nowhere. If there are any Dry Cholla Cactus around the small dry branches make excellent Candles at night if you get a Flat and if you put several together you can make a Torch and the little holes in the side give it air and keep it lit even the wind has a Problem blowing it out. Of Course A good Sleeping Bag and plenty of water is a must and a good knife and Dagger. A good Tool Box with Tools and Hammer dont hurt either. I use a ski pole as a Walking Stick and it has come in Handy for hiking and rustling the plants in front of you to keep from getting Snake bit and to kill Snakes and even for protection from Bad People who you might just happen to Encounter out in the middle of nowhere. To me Traveling alone in the mountains is Second Nature. Read my Website on here its outdated now since then i have found the Exact area where the Heberer Lorius will be found and some important evidence to Solving this Great Mystery. LUPE from the Center of N.M. http://community.webtv.net/PintadaKid/THELONGWALK I COMPLAINED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES UNTIL I MET A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET. EL PINTADA KID ..... LUPE |
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"toller" > writes in article > dated Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:14:29 GMT:
>I have a cottage about a mile off the paved road. The first half of the >gravel road has 25 degree down slopes and the second half has 25 degree up >slopes. It can have several feet of wet Northeast snow. > >5 years ago I tried taking a Rav4 4wd in with about 6" of snow. I got to >the midpoint, but it just spun on the uphill. Fortunately it did better >going back on it's own tire tracks. > >How would a Ford F250 4x4 do? I have access to a 1995 rigged for >snowplowing. What depth of snow could it reliably handle. > >Needless to say, I know nothing about 4x4s, except that I will not be trying >my wife's Grand Caravan 4wd. Sorry for the late reply, but it seems nobody has addressed the hill issue. A 25-degree slope is huge. You need a coefficient of friction of at least 46 to be able to stop on the downslope. I don't think you'll get that without chains. Don't try it without chains unless you have a straight run afterwards where you can decellerate. For the upslope, you simply need to get a running start. If you make it halfway up the hill, you need to go sqrt(2) times faster on your next try. (sqrt(2) = 1.414). So, how high are the hills on each end? 1/2 * m * v^2 = m * h * g -- spud_demon -at- thundermaker.net The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer. |
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On 10 Aug 2005 15:38:10 -0400, SnoMan >
wrote: > >I would not angle plow a lane in deep snow as a beginner because I >have seen heavy snow push the truck aside off of the angle on plow and >snow. It is not all cut and dried. I would not plow a long access lane >in deep snow without a Vee plow if you are new to this stuff as you >could get in bad trouble quickly. I have one steep driveway that I plow each year. The only option is to blast up with the blade raised, get to the top and then plow down. |
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"Spud Demon" wrote:
> > >For the upslope, you simply need to get a running start. If you make >it >halfway up the hill, you need to go sqrt(2) times faster on your next >try. >(sqrt(2) = 1.414). > >So, how high are the hills on each end? >1/2 * m * v^2 = m * h * g > >-- spud_demon -at- thundermaker.net >The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer. Not that simple because it does not factor in rolling resistance and drag. It assume a zero fricton incline. It is these varibles that turn simple equations into not so simple ones. Good thinking though. -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/4X4-kind-s...ict131673.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=646966 |
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