2001 Concorde transmission problem?

Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.


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"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> micky wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Last night I changed the trans oil and filter. I cleaned the pan and the
>> magnet and put 4 quarts of ATF +4. Everything went well until this
>> morning when I tried to drive the car! When I put the car in gear and try
>> to go backwards or forward the car does not move until the RPM hits 3000
>> and the car just jumps! I think it stays in first gear. After 5 minutes
>> of driving the "yellow" check engine light came on. I stopped the car
>> right away and had it towed back to my house. By the way, the speedometer
>> works.
>>
>> I used a generic code reader and I am getting the following codes; 700,
>> 732, 731, and 733.
>>
>> Did I do something wrong? Am I missing something? I did everything by the
>> book! Please let me know if this is something I can take care of myself
>> or should I just have it towed to the dealer? Thank you very much.
>
> Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
> check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
> ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
> Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
> that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
> one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it
> up.
>
> Sure enough, a couple of years ago, when I did the filter and fluid on my
> '99 Concorde, the Chrysler dealer had sold me the wrong filter - I
> happened to notice when I fitted the filter up that the fit was darn near
> perfect, **except** the nipple that mates with the tranny plumbing was too
> short - i.e., didn't mate with the tranny plumbing. Fortunately I noticed
> it (thanks to the warning I got here) and didn't put the pan back on. I
> went to the auto parts store and bought the same brand of filter (Saginaw,
> IIRC), but the correct one.
>
> If the same thing happended to you, I'm thinking that the fluid is having
> a hard time getting pulled from the pan thru the filter with a poor
> connection like that. Not saying that that definitely is your problem,
> but you never know.
>
> (BTW - I posted essentially this same reply to your thread on DI.net)
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

micky wrote:
> Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.

That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.

>>Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
>>check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
>>ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
>>Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
>>that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
>>one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it
>>up...


Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

Another thought: Did you get the O-ring on and/or possibly leave the old
one there along with the new one?

Bob
"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> micky wrote:
> > Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.
>
> That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.
>
> >>Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
> >>check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
> >>ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
> >>Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
> >>that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
> >>one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it
> >>up...
>
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

Bob, I used the new one that came with the filter. Thanks.


"Bob Shuman" > wrote in message
...
> Another thought: Did you get the O-ring on and/or possibly leave the old
> one there along with the new one?
>
> Bob
> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message
> ...
>> micky wrote:
>> > Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.
>>
>> That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.
>>
>> >>Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in
>> >>to
>> >>check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of
>> >>years
>> >>ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
>> >>Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
>> >>that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
>> >>one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning
>> >>it
>> >>up...
>>
>>
>> Bill Putney
>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>> adddress with the letter 'x')
>
>

Thanks Bill. I have the day off tomorrow so I am going to drop the pan again
and see if I screwed something up there. I'll let you know what happen.
Thanks.


"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> micky wrote:
>> Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.
>
> That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.
>
>>>Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
>>>check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
>>>ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
>>>Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
>>>that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
>>>one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it
>>>up...
>
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

Hi everyone, hi Bill.

I dropped the Pan on Tuesday afternoon and I let the tranny drain over
night. On Wednesday morning I picked up another 4 quarts ATF+4 from the
dealer and put the tranny back together. I checked the fluid level and it
was low, really low! So, I picked up another 2 quarts and had to put in
another 1.5 quarts to get it right.

Started the car up and to my surprise it drove perfect. That was on
Wednesday afternoon and today is Friday and it still driving good. I don't
know what to tell you! I really did not do anything different from the first
time I replaced the fluid! I am not going to complain, I just wanted to
write back and share my story with you. If someone has and explanation, I am
all ears.

Thanks again! Great people, great newsgroup!


"micky" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Bill. I have the day off tomorrow so I am going to drop the pan
> again and see if I screwed something up there. I'll let you know what
> happen. Thanks.
>
>
> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message
> ...
>> micky wrote:
>>> Hi Bill, The part number is 1-04796730AB.
>>
>> That's the correct one, so that's not the problem.
>>
>>>>Do you have the part number (packaging) of the filter that you put in to
>>>>check for the application? I ask because I was warned a couple of years
>>>>ago on this ng that there are a couple of filters to fit trannies on
>>>>Chryslers (I'm careful never to call them "Chrysler transmissions") 8^)
>>>>that will seem to fit but will not work, and if you get sold the wrong
>>>>one, it might not be obvious 'til you try to drive it after buttoning it
>>>>up...
>>
>>
>> Bill Putney
>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>> adddress with the letter 'x')
>
>

Sounds like you were 1.5 quarts low...

Bob Shuman wrote:
> Sounds like you were 1.5 quarts low...

That's what I'm thinking.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')

I don't know, I thought the 1.5 was because I let it drain over night. The
fluid level was correct the first time but who knows! I am just happy it is
working!


"Bob Shuman" > wrote in message
...
> Sounds like you were 1.5 quarts low...
>
>
>
>

micky wrote:

> Hi everyone, hi Bill.
>
> I dropped the Pan on Tuesday afternoon and I let the tranny drain over
> night. On Wednesday morning I picked up another 4 quarts ATF+4 from the
> dealer and put the tranny back together. I checked the fluid level and it
> was low, really low! So, I picked up another 2 quarts and had to put in
> another 1.5 quarts to get it right.

Draining overnight empties about 1/2 the torque convertor in addition to
the transmission case.

>
> Started the car up and to my surprise it drove perfect. That was on
> Wednesday afternoon and today is Friday and it still driving good. I don't
> know what to tell you! I really did not do anything different from the first
> time I replaced the fluid! I am not going to complain, I just wanted to
> write back and share my story with you. If someone has and explanation, I am
> all ears.


I don't have a sure-fire explanation, just 2 guesses:

1) fluid level was low the first time also
2) filter neck wasn't seated in valve body the first time