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Old September 13th 06, 04:36 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Grumpy AuContraire[_2_]
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
41.2 mpg for mixed driving...

JT
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Old September 13th 06, 04:47 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Earle Horton[_5_]
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.

Earle

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
...
> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
>
> JT



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Old September 13th 06, 04:56 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
jim beam
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

Earle Horton wrote:
> My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.


that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
/huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.

>
> Earle
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> ...
>> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
>> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
>>
>> JT

>
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Old September 13th 06, 05:01 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Earle Horton[_5_]
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

You mis-spelled "junk". I got the stick shift.

Earle

"jim beam" > wrote in message
t...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.

>
> that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
> /huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.
>
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> >> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
> >>
> >> JT

> >
> >



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Old September 13th 06, 05:10 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
jim beam
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

Earle Horton wrote:
> You mis-spelled "junk". I got the stick shift.


no i didn't. the cvt will give you better mileage - it's always in
/exactly/ the most efficient ratio.

>
> Earle
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> "jim beam" > wrote in message
> t...
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.

>> that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
>> /huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.
>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
>>>> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>

>
>

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Old September 13th 06, 06:48 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Kevin McMurtrie
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

In article > ,
jim beam > wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You mis-spelled "junk". I got the stick shift.

>
> no i didn't. the cvt will give you better mileage - it's always in
> /exactly/ the most efficient ratio.


Based on all the stupid things that the 5 speed 2005 HAH transmission
does, I wouldn't count on it. Honda's transmission programming is
_really_ bad. Accelerate a little bit and it shifts from 3rd (3 cyl) to
4th (6 cyl + IMA) then 2nd (6 cyl) then 3rd (6 cyl) and back to 4th (3
cyl + IMA). 96/97 Civic HX CVT transmissions had a lot of software
performance problems too.

If I could convert my HAH to a 5 speed manual, I'd be making a service
appointment now. I'm always in the right gear because I know what I'm
doing next.


> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "jim beam" > wrote in message
> > t...
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.
> >> that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
> >> /huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.
> >>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> >>>> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
> >>>>
> >>>> JT
> >>>

> >
> >

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Old September 13th 06, 03:36 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Earle Horton[_5_]
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

Whatever. It's an automatic, isn't it, with a torque converter? The manual
I got with the HX recommends changing the fluid in the cvt every 15,000
miles, which says to me that it is a transmission that is continuously
wearing itself out as you use it. And that will be Honda Genuine
Transmission Fluid too. I don' need no stinkin' automatic, thanks. You can
pry the stick shift from my cold, dead hands.

Cheers,

Earle

"jim beam" > wrote in message
t...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You mis-spelled "junk". I got the stick shift.

>
> no i didn't. the cvt will give you better mileage - it's always in
> /exactly/ the most efficient ratio.
>
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "jim beam" > wrote in message
> > t...
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >>> My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45

mpg.
> >> that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
> >> /huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.
> >>
> >>> Earle
> >>>
> >>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> >>>> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
> >>>>
> >>>> JT
> >>>

> >
> >



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Old September 16th 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
ecarecar
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

With my 98 HX I regularly get 55 mpg, but the hybrid is not bunk
particularly not the
enigne which runs on the much more efficient Atkinson cycle.

jim beam wrote:

> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> My 1999 HX, "special" low emissions, high mileage model, gets 40-45 mpg.

>
>
> that hx, with cvt, is a wonder, the cvt part particularly - it makes a
> /huge/ difference. "hybrid" is bunk.
>
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
>>> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
>>>
>>> JT

>>
>>
>>

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Old September 14th 06, 11:44 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???

My honda hybrid always get atleast 45 mpg, sometimes closer to 50 in
the winter. http://www.safelotvegas.com/index.php
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
>
> JT


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Old September 15th 06, 02:39 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default Who Needs a Hybrid???



wrote:
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> My honda hybrid always get atleast 45 mpg, sometimes closer to 50 in
> the winter.
http://www.safelotvegas.com/index.php
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> > My ancient '83 Civic just runs better and better. Today's fill up -
> > 41.2 mpg for mixed driving...
> >
> > JT




Tell me your total cost per mile...

JT
 




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