NAFTA superhighway will cause boom in the caltrop business

I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
> a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
> traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.

I doubt that I'm really on your side, O eloquent neo-gentry, but in
these dark days anybody who can bloviate about "caltrops" as a mere
matter of fact that does not need to be down-dumbed for the easier
convenience of GOP-corrupted wombscholars looks rather attractive.

But despair not, ye neo-gentry! There isn't going to be any
down-the-throat-stuffin' _shtik_ at all, and no "merger with Mexico"
_shtik_ either, but it well becomes you guys to be Ever-Vigilant
Neo-Heroes nevertheless.

Never altogether trust anybody, and trust McCloskeys least of all!
That's my own maxim, sir, and you can have it from me _gratis_.

_Astaghfirullaah_!

On 5 Sep 2006 00:19:59 -0700, "JHM" >
wrote:

>
>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>> a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>> traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>
>I doubt that I'm really on your side, O eloquent neo-gentry, but in
>these dark days anybody who can bloviate about "caltrops" as a mere
>matter of fact that does not need to be down-dumbed for the easier
>convenience of GOP-corrupted wombscholars looks rather attractive.
>
>But despair not, ye neo-gentry! There isn't going to be any
>down-the-throat-stuffin' _shtik_ at all, and no "merger with Mexico"
>_shtik_ either, but it well becomes you guys to be Ever-Vigilant
>Neo-Heroes nevertheless.
>
>Never altogether trust anybody, and trust McCloskeys least of all!
>That's my own maxim, sir, and you can have it from me _gratis_.
>
>_Astaghfirullaah_!

Another govt disinformation agent strikes.

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:28:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS > wrote:

>On 5 Sep 2006 00:19:59 -0700, "JHM" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>> I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>>> a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>>> traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>>
>>I doubt that I'm really on your side, O eloquent neo-gentry, but in
>>these dark days anybody who can bloviate about "caltrops" as a mere
>>matter of fact that does not need to be down-dumbed for the easier
>>convenience of GOP-corrupted wombscholars looks rather attractive.
>>
>>But despair not, ye neo-gentry! There isn't going to be any
>>down-the-throat-stuffin' _shtik_ at all, and no "merger with Mexico"
>>_shtik_ either, but it well becomes you guys to be Ever-Vigilant
>>Neo-Heroes nevertheless.
>>
>>Never altogether trust anybody, and trust McCloskeys least of all!
>>That's my own maxim, sir, and you can have it from me _gratis_.
>>
>>_Astaghfirullaah_!
>
>Another govt disinformation agent strikes.

Are you sure you're in a position to make such an observation?
Remember, the government is paying for your treatment. Without the
Government, you'd be out on the street, where your problems would keep
you from holding any kind of a job that meant meeting the public,
would keep you from having even a $3 girlfriend, and would probably
mean you'd be beaten to a pulp before anyone you did talk to realized
you aren't responsible for your actions.
How about that civics book; is there one in the library there?
Is there a library there?
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Hi. This is the meow-send program at usenet. I'm afraid I wasn't able
to deliver any clue to the following address: Bill Funk
>
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.


>On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:28:44 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>MURDERERS > wrote:
>
>>On 5 Sep 2006 00:19:59 -0700, "JHM" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>> I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>>>> a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>>>> traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>>>
>>>I doubt that I'm really on your side, O eloquent neo-gentry, but in
>>>these dark days anybody who can bloviate about "caltrops" as a mere
>>>matter of fact that does not need to be down-dumbed for the easier
>>>convenience of GOP-corrupted wombscholars looks rather attractive.
>>>
>>>But despair not, ye neo-gentry! There isn't going to be any
>>>down-the-throat-stuffin' _shtik_ at all, and no "merger with Mexico"
>>>_shtik_ either, but it well becomes you guys to be Ever-Vigilant
>>>Neo-Heroes nevertheless.
>>>
>>>Never altogether trust anybody, and trust McCloskeys least of all!
>>>That's my own maxim, sir, and you can have it from me _gratis_.
>>>
>>>_Astaghfirullaah_!
>>
>>Another govt disinformation agent strikes.
>
>Are you sure you're in a position to make such an observation?
>Remember, the government is paying for your treatment. Without the
>Government, you'd be out on the street, where your problems would keep
>you from holding any kind of a job that meant meeting the public,
>would keep you from having even a $3 girlfriend, and would probably
>mean you'd be beaten to a pulp before anyone you did talk to realized
>you aren't responsible for your actions.
>How about that civics book; is there one in the library there?
>Is there a library there?

There is a library there, but all the books have already been colored
in.


---

"Do we operate under a system of equal justice under law? Or is there one system for the average citizen and another for the high and mighty?" ~ Senator Ted Kennedy, 1973

--

El Pollo Loco (Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend) demonstrates it's complete gullibility, stupidity, and state of delusion when it falls for an April Fool's joke, hook, line, and sinker:

> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...6999983?hl=en&

Ragnar wrote:
> Gods, you're dumb. Its a rather obvious April Fool's joke. And you're
> the Fool.

This is no joke.

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:46:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS > wrote:

>I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.

I bought a copy of NAFTA, and read the parts which were readable. Lots
of it was not readable - consisting of long lists of all kind of stuff
and what the current and future tariff rates would be. Twine, twisted,
cotton, 13 percent. Twine, twisted, nylon 13 percent on and on and on.
But the actual comprehensible part, on the rules? It was clear to me
that what Nafta does is

level the playing field. To the benefit of the US.

Remember all the talk about how the playing field was rigged against
us? It was. Example - Mexico. We were paying a tariff of about 3
percent on average for stuff made in Mexico sold in the US. But they
were screwing our goods, charging the Mexicans a fifteen percent
tariff, on average, for our goods. That was a playing field really
tilted against us. It wasn't fair.

So what Nafta does is mainly stop them from screwing us. They have
agreed to lower their tariffs way down, to zero for a whole bunch of
stuff. And we agree to lower our tariffs on their stuff, often to
zero.

So instead of playing on an unfair playing field, we can now compete
with Mexican goods on a level playing field.

Why in God's name would you be opposed to that?

WHy do you favor the old system, where our companies got royally
screwed when they tried to sell stuff into Mexico?

While their stuff got off so light when it came in here?

THere is also a chapter on a court to resolve disputes. Seems
reasonable to me to have a court to resolve cheating etc. I don't see
a problem with that.

AND THATS IT. That's all NAFTA is.

It's not the Spawn of Satan.

George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:46:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> MURDERERS > wrote:
>
> >I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
> >a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
> >traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>
> I bought a copy of NAFTA, and read the parts which were readable. Lots
> of it was not readable - consisting of long lists of all kind of stuff
> and what the current and future tariff rates would be. Twine, twisted,
> cotton, 13 percent. Twine, twisted, nylon 13 percent on and on and on.
> But the actual comprehensible part, on the rules? It was clear to me
> that what Nafta does is
>
> level the playing field. To the benefit of the US.
>
> Remember all the talk about how the playing field was rigged against
> us? It was. Example - Mexico. We were paying a tariff of about 3
> percent on average for stuff made in Mexico sold in the US. But they
> were screwing our goods, charging the Mexicans a fifteen percent
> tariff, on average, for our goods. That was a playing field really
> tilted against us. It wasn't fair.
>
> So what Nafta does is mainly stop them from screwing us. They have
> agreed to lower their tariffs way down, to zero for a whole bunch of
> stuff. And we agree to lower our tariffs on their stuff, often to
> zero.
>
> So instead of playing on an unfair playing field, we can now compete
> with Mexican goods on a level playing field.
>
> Why in God's name would you be opposed to that?
>
> WHy do you favor the old system, where our companies got royally
> screwed when they tried to sell stuff into Mexico?
>
> While their stuff got off so light when it came in here?
>
> THere is also a chapter on a court to resolve disputes. Seems
> reasonable to me to have a court to resolve cheating etc. I don't see
> a problem with that.
>
> AND THATS IT. That's all NAFTA is.
>
> It's not the Spawn of Satan.

Nearly 37 million US jobs have been deported south of the border to
some latin dump as a result of NAFTA. So, why would you be opposed to
that, dingbat?

Retitled:

Tracey1212 wrote:
> George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:46:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> > MURDERERS > wrote:
> >
> > >I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
> > >a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
> > >traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
> >
> > I bought a copy of NAFTA, and read the parts which were readable. Lots
> > of it was not readable - consisting of long lists of all kind of stuff
> > and what the current and future tariff rates would be. Twine, twisted,
> > cotton, 13 percent. Twine, twisted, nylon 13 percent on and on and on.
> > But the actual comprehensible part, on the rules? It was clear to me
> > that what Nafta does is
> >
> > level the playing field. To the benefit of the US.
> >
> > Remember all the talk about how the playing field was rigged against
> > us? It was. Example - Mexico. We were paying a tariff of about 3
> > percent on average for stuff made in Mexico sold in the US. But they
> > were screwing our goods, charging the Mexicans a fifteen percent
> > tariff, on average, for our goods. That was a playing field really
> > tilted against us. It wasn't fair.
> >
> > So what Nafta does is mainly stop them from screwing us. They have
> > agreed to lower their tariffs way down, to zero for a whole bunch of
> > stuff. And we agree to lower our tariffs on their stuff, often to
> > zero.
> >
> > So instead of playing on an unfair playing field, we can now compete
> > with Mexican goods on a level playing field.
> >
> > Why in God's name would you be opposed to that?
> >
> > WHy do you favor the old system, where our companies got royally
> > screwed when they tried to sell stuff into Mexico?
> >
> > While their stuff got off so light when it came in here?
> >
> > THere is also a chapter on a court to resolve disputes. Seems
> > reasonable to me to have a court to resolve cheating etc. I don't see
> > a problem with that.
> >
> > AND THATS IT. That's all NAFTA is.
> >
> > It's not the Spawn of Satan.

> Nearly 37 million US jobs have been deported south of the border to
> some latin dump as a result of NAFTA. So, why would you be opposed to
> that, dingbat?

On 5 Sep 2006 12:54:44 -0700, wrote:

>Retitled:
>
>Tracey1212 wrote:
>> George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
>> > On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:46:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>> > MURDERERS > wrote:
>> >
>> > >I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>> > >a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>> > >traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>> >
>> > I bought a copy of NAFTA, and read the parts which were readable. Lots
>> > of it was not readable - consisting of long lists of all kind of stuff
>> > and what the current and future tariff rates would be. Twine, twisted,
>> > cotton, 13 percent. Twine, twisted, nylon 13 percent on and on and on.
>> > But the actual comprehensible part, on the rules? It was clear to me
>> > that what Nafta does is
>> >
>> > level the playing field. To the benefit of the US.
>> >
>> > Remember all the talk about how the playing field was rigged against
>> > us? It was. Example - Mexico. We were paying a tariff of about 3
>> > percent on average for stuff made in Mexico sold in the US. But they
>> > were screwing our goods, charging the Mexicans a fifteen percent
>> > tariff, on average, for our goods. That was a playing field really
>> > tilted against us. It wasn't fair.

Why is America selling government subsidized corn to Mexico at prices
below cost of production? This has forced 10's of thousands of Mexican
farmers into unemployment. The end result has been illegal immigration
into the US in search of work to support their families.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0423-02.htm
Published on Friday, April 23, 2004 by the Los Angeles Times
A Flood of U.S. Corn Rips at Mexico
by Michael Pollan

Americans have been talking a lot about trade this campaign season,
about globalism's winners and losers, and especially about the export
of American jobs. Yet even when globalism is working the way it's
supposed to — when Americans are exporting things like crops rather
than jobs — there can be a steep social and environmental cost.

One of the ballyhooed successes of the North American Free Trade
Agreement has been the opening of Mexico to American farmers, who are
now selling millions of bushels of corn south of the border. But why
would Mexico, whose people still subsist on maize (mostly in
tortillas), whose farmers still grow more maize than any other crop,
ever buy corn from an American farmer? Because he can produce it much
more cheaply than any Mexican farmer can. Actually that's not quite
right — it's because he can sell it much more cheaply.

This is largely because of U.S. agricultural policies. While one part
of the U.S. government speaks of the need to alleviate Third World
poverty, another is writing subsidy checks to American farmers, which
encourages them to undersell Third World farmers.

The river of cheap American corn began flooding into Mexico after
NAFTA took effect in 1994. Since then, the price of corn in Mexico has
fallen by half. A 2003 report by the Carnegie Endowment says this
flood has washed away 1.3 million small farmers. Unable to compete,
they have left their land to join the swelling pools of Mexico's urban
unemployed. Others migrate to the U.S. to pick our crops — former
farmers become day laborers.
....


>> > So what Nafta does is mainly stop them from screwing us. They have
>> > agreed to lower their tariffs way down, to zero for a whole bunch of
>> > stuff. And we agree to lower our tariffs on their stuff, often to
>> > zero.
>> >
>> > So instead of playing on an unfair playing field, we can now compete
>> > with Mexican goods on a level playing field.

You forgot to mention that US companies moved their manufacturing into
Mexico under NAFTA to take advantage of cheaper labour. Unfortunately,
third world countries in the Pacific rim had even cheaper labour so
the Mexicans lost these jobs eventually.

>> > Why in God's name would you be opposed to that?
>> >
>> > WHy do you favor the old system, where our companies got royally
>> > screwed when they tried to sell stuff into Mexico?
>> >
>> > While their stuff got off so light when it came in here?
>> >
>> > THere is also a chapter on a court to resolve disputes. Seems
>> > reasonable to me to have a court to resolve cheating etc. I don't see
>> > a problem with that.

The US government has refused for years to accept the NAFTA court
rulings. BTW, this cost Americans $1,000 for every new house built in
the last 5 years or so. The softwood lumber industry in the States has
the ear of the government - to hell with the people. They finally
conceded this year.

http://www.embassymag.ca/html/index....t/17/softwood/
NAFTA Softwood Appeals Nearing End
International Trade Minister Jim Peterson has suspended the Aug. 22
softwood lumber talks with his U.S. counterpart Rob Portman as a
result of the American decision to not comply with the latest NAFTA
ruling.

>> > AND THATS IT. That's all NAFTA is.
>> >
>> > It's not the Spawn of Satan.
>
>> Nearly 37 million US jobs have been deported south of the border to
>> some latin dump as a result of NAFTA. So, why would you be opposed to
>> that, dingbat?

NAFTA is a pile of ****e.....

On 5 Sep 2006 12:54:44 -0700, wrote:

>Retitled:

You say I was flattened by someone saying that after NAFTA 37 million
US jobs were lost to those south of us.

The only problem is that that is not only false, it is probably the
most absurd claim on Usenet in a week.

After Nafta, the US created a TON of good jobs, averaging 200,000 MORE
jobs every month, month in, month out, year in, year out.

AND those new jobs added to our economy were better paying jobs than
the old ones.

AND no logic whatsoever was offered to rebut the logic of what I said
in this post.

Indeed the logic of saying - the US lost nearly forty million jobs -
even though the number of people working in the US exploded upward -

would suggest we should change our laws so that other countries impose
BIG TARIFFS on our goods, while we continue to let their goods in here
at almost no tariff cost.

This time, please read and UNDERSTAND what I wrote.

Simply making up ludicrously false stuff to "rebut" it - is against
the rules.

>
>Tracey1212 wrote:
>> George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:
>> > On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:46:14 GMT, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>> > MURDERERS > wrote:
>> >
>> > >I suspect there will be a run on roofing nails too. We need to bring
>> > >a halt to this merger with mexico that Bush and the congressional
>> > >traitors of both parties are stuffing down our throats.
>> >
>> > I bought a copy of NAFTA, and read the parts which were readable. Lots
>> > of it was not readable - consisting of long lists of all kind of stuff
>> > and what the current and future tariff rates would be. Twine, twisted,
>> > cotton, 13 percent. Twine, twisted, nylon 13 percent on and on and on.
>> > But the actual comprehensible part, on the rules? It was clear to me
>> > that what Nafta does is
>> >
>> > level the playing field. To the benefit of the US.
>> >
>> > Remember all the talk about how the playing field was rigged against
>> > us? It was. Example - Mexico. We were paying a tariff of about 3
>> > percent on average for stuff made in Mexico sold in the US. But they
>> > were screwing our goods, charging the Mexicans a fifteen percent
>> > tariff, on average, for our goods. That was a playing field really
>> > tilted against us. It wasn't fair.
>> >
>> > So what Nafta does is mainly stop them from screwing us. They have
>> > agreed to lower their tariffs way down, to zero for a whole bunch of
>> > stuff. And we agree to lower our tariffs on their stuff, often to
>> > zero.
>> >
>> > So instead of playing on an unfair playing field, we can now compete
>> > with Mexican goods on a level playing field.
>> >
>> > Why in God's name would you be opposed to that?
>> >
>> > WHy do you favor the old system, where our companies got royally
>> > screwed when they tried to sell stuff into Mexico?
>> >
>> > While their stuff got off so light when it came in here?
>> >
>> > THere is also a chapter on a court to resolve disputes. Seems
>> > reasonable to me to have a court to resolve cheating etc. I don't see
>> > a problem with that.
>> >
>> > AND THATS IT. That's all NAFTA is.
>> >
>> > It's not the Spawn of Satan.
>
>> Nearly 37 million US jobs have been deported south of the border to
>> some latin dump as a result of NAFTA. So, why would you be opposed to
>> that, dingbat?