Koenig winch

I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
what the specs are?
One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
unit.
Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
appreciated.

Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use
with Power Take Offs:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot...WinchMount.gif
?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/


"Randy" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
> are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
> believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
> currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
> wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
> what the specs are?
> One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
> can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
> I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
> agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
> sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
> unit.
> Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
> appreciated.
>



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On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> wrote:
> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use
> with Power Take Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch...
> ?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> /
>
> "Randy" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
> > what the specs are?
> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
> > unit.
> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
> > appreciated.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an
adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is
where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would
like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!!

It is not a PTO. PTO means Power Take Off, and this power source is a
mechanical connection to the drive train via the transfer case. Your winch
is a hydraulic winch. It runs by hydraulic means via a pump that is driven
by a motor. The pump could be a PTO design, but typically is simply
connected to the crankshaft by a belt.

In an automotive application -- such as your Jeep -- a hydraulic winch is
often run by the power steering pump.

The beauty of a hydraulic winch over an electric one is that it can run
pretty much forever without stopping, wheras an electric winch needs to rest
frequently because it gets hot. The downside of the hydraulic winch is that
if it is your own Jeep that needs to be recovered, the engine must be able
to run for the winch to work. As a practical matter, the recovery operation
while offroading is usually far shorter than the duty cycle of the winch --
you can get the vehicle back on its wheels long before the winch gets hot
and needs to rest. An electric winch is well suited for self recovery
because it can work even if the vehicle is belly up, and the engine will not
run.






"Randy" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
> are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
> believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
> currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
> wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
> what the specs are?
> One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
> can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
> I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
> agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
> sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
> unit.
> Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
> appreciated.
>

For Christ sake, either top post or bottom post, but not both.

It doesn't matter what netiquette is, follow suit so I don't have to look
for the discussion. There is nothing worse than sticking to "right" when
somebody else has already screwed it up.



"Randy" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> On Sep 20, 1:40 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III"
> > wrote:
>> Does it separate from the motor to look like the old Koenig winch use
>> with Power Take
>> Offs:http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Phot.../HHKoenigWinch...
>> ?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> /
>>
>> "Randy" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
>> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
>> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
>> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
>> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
>> > what the specs are?
>> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
>> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
>> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
>> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
>> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
>> > unit.
>> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
>> > appreciated.
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> It looks like a similar design as in your photo except there is an
> adapter spool that bolts onto the bottom of the drive end. This is
> where the hydraulic motor is bolted and coupled to the winch. I would
> like to attach a photo but I don't know how!!!
>

You can not post pictures (binary files) to a non-binary group. You have to
post the binary to another server, then provide the link. You can create a
Photo Album in Yahoo!, pack it full of pictures, then post links here so we
can go there.


POINT OF ORDER
Do you see how stupid it is to adhere to netiquette after somebody else has
violated the rules? Sheesh. Just follow suit ...

Randy wrote:
> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
> are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
> believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
> currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
> wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
> what the specs are?
> One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
> can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
> I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
> agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
> sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
> unit.
> Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
> appreciated.
>

That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is
just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html

I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't
always a good thing when winching....

If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

On Sep 20, 11:59 pm, Mike Romain > wrote:
> Randy wrote:
> > I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
> > are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
> > believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
> > currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
> > wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
> > what the specs are?
> > One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
> > can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
> > I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
> > agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
> > sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
> > unit.
> > Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
> > appreciated.
>
> That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is
> just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps.
>
> http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html
>
> I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't
> always a good thing when winching....
>
> If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

........... back to my original question......... can anyone identify
the model of this winch from the numbers 524 and 49064 and do you have
any information on it in regards to load rating, etc. Any assistance
with the subject would be appreciated rather than the criticism of how
I posted the query.
I use these groups to research and share information among other
enthusiasts........ not for social activity. Get a life.

Randy wrote:
> On Sep 20, 11:59 pm, Mike Romain > wrote:
>> Randy wrote:
>>> I've got a Koenig winch ???????? don't know what the model or specs
>>> are on it. The only numbers I can find on it are; 524 and 49064. I
>>> believe this unit would be classified as a PTO winch since it
>>> currently driven by a hydraulic motor (oilfield application). I'm
>>> wondering if anyone has a book on this winch or can at least tell me
>>> what the specs are?
>>> One of the problems is that it turns extremely slowly and I think I
>>> can easily fix that by installing a small GPM hydraulic motor.
>>> I've tried contacting RKI but they were of no help what so ever. They
>>> agreed that they used to manufacture this winch but they would rather
>>> sell me a new unit than assist with some information on the original
>>> unit.
>>> Any assistance, direction to a web site or contact info would be
>>> appreciated.
>> That winch 'can' be driven off the PTO if you have such, otherwise it is
>> just a hydraulic winch. It might even have been made for Jeeps.
>>
>> http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3B/Tech/KoenigWinch.html
>>
>> I believe you are correct about the pump and speed, though speed isn't
>> always a good thing when winching....
>>
>> If you had a PTO, then a hand throttle would control the winch speed.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> .......... back to my original question......... can anyone identify
> the model of this winch from the numbers 524 and 49064 and do you have
> any information on it in regards to load rating, etc. Any assistance
> with the subject would be appreciated rather than the criticism of how
> I posted the query.
> I use these groups to research and share information among other
> enthusiasts........ not for social activity. Get a life.
>

Well, seeing as I actually found out that info and was going to post it
this morning for you until you decided to rant on me for no apparent
reason, you can freakin' well look it up yourself.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Ah, enthusiasm in Jeeps isn't a social activity.
If you are after a professional service, pay your mechanic.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Randy" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I use these groups to research and share information among other
> enthusiasts........ not for social activity. Get a life.

Gotta disagree there Dave. I'll bet I have met close to 100 people from
this newsgroup over the years from a bunch of provinces and states by
putting on all those runs and area cleanups I used to do, so it is
indeed a 'social' activity.

Bunches of us get together for weekend repair parties also. My wife and
I have met friends we will likely keep for life from this group.

I guess I shouldn't be too hard on that 'newbie' just because he doesn't
know how to post his rant in the right place, but geese I have enough
people ranting at me over BS without newbies starting in on me over
someone else's rant....

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
> Ah, enthusiasm in Jeeps isn't a social activity.
> If you are after a professional service, pay your mechanic.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
>
> "Randy" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> I use these groups to research and share information among other
>> enthusiasts........ not for social activity. Get a life.
>
>
>