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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose - HELP!!!
I have a 94 Accord, manual with 135,000 miles on it. Early this year
(it was still winter here on the east coast) I started to see this problem - after I start the car and have driven about 4-5 miles on the highway (the temperature gauge at midway point), a 'thug...thug...' kind of sounds starts up and I can feel the vibrations in the steering wheel and the floor. It starts off soft and then gets really loud - as thought the car is just going to go 'plunk' on the highway. I have to slow down to almost 30mph on the highway to safely get home. The sound is continuous with a frequency of 2/sec. It happens in all the gears BUT only when my foot is on the gas. It does not happen when I am coasting in gear (foot not on gas) or in neutral, say downhill. It is more prominent when the wheel is straight or turned to the right, not to the left. It does not happen if I am driving in the city or on the local streets (STOP & GO). It also seems to decrease when I get off at an exit and am back to driving at 25-30mph. I have taken it to a Honda Dealer (O'Donnell Honda Service Center, Ellicott City, MD) 4 times. First time then had me replace the Reman Shaft - $900 odd. I had barely driven out of the shop, and the noise started again - so I turn around and go back. They ask me to leave it in the shop. Now they say that the brake calipers are hanging and so, they replace that along with the whole brake assembly, drum etc, etc. - over $700 Then summer came along and I never heard the noise again. A few weeks ago, as it started to get cold, the problem crept up again. I took it back to the dealer and told them that they had made me spend all this money and the problem is not gone. Since the repair was under warranty - they agreed to take a look at it. I told them that they need to drive at least 4-5 miles before they'll begin to hear the noise. I am sure they did not, they made a note on the work order, that it was raining and so they could not hear the noise. The noise again seemed to have disappeared. Last week, 'whatdoyouknow', the noise started again. Took it back to them and this time I expressed my frustration that this is happening way too often and for them to fix it for once and all. I get a call after they 'diagnosed' it and the service rep. tells me that the exhaust is an after-market on, so the whole assembly needs to be changed. I told them that if that was the case, then it should happen all the time, plus the sound and the vibrations seem as though they are coming from the front wheel area and not from under the body of the car. Even the Service Shop Manager could not diagnose the problem, even after expressing frustration; I got him to go on a test drive with me and demonstrated the noise. He then says it may be from the balancing of the wheel - and I know that is not the case, since I had got that done less than a year ago, plus, again, if that is the case, shouldn't it be happening all the time. I give up - does any one here have a clue??? |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose - HELP!!!
Sorry for the long post, to summarize...The noise starts under the
following conditions only, After having driven 4-5 miles at highway speeds When foot is on gas All gears Outside temperature is slightly cold (less than 60 deg F) Wheel is straight or turned right |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can'tdiagnose...
You could have a defect in the tire. Try swapping the right front with
the right rear and go for a test drive. If the noise and vibration are still there, I would have the upper and lower ball joints, wheel bearing, and shock checked. |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose- HELP!!!
junkcool wrote:
> Sorry for the long post, to summarize...The noise starts under the > following conditions only, > > After having driven 4-5 miles at highway speeds > When foot is on gas > All gears > Outside temperature is slightly cold (less than 60 deg F) > Wheel is straight or turned right > there's not many things it can be. prime candidates are motor mounts, suspension componentry or running gear. in that order. unless you get under the car and do some inspection work, there's not much more we can do for you here other than advise taking the car back to the shop. but before you do that, there's one thing you need to understand - the dealer that hosed you $900 for a /recon/ driveshaft should be jailed for fraud. as for the brakes, again, entirely unnecessary and grossly over-expensive. brakes grind, squeak or shudder - they don't thump. find a good independent honda repair shop and qualify them with questions about likely causes. get personal recommendations from existing customers. |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose...
CV Joint?
Mark |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose- HELP!!!
jim beam wrote:
> junkcool wrote: >> Sorry for the long post, to summarize...The noise starts under the >> following conditions only, >> >> After having driven 4-5 miles at highway speeds >> When foot is on gas >> All gears even reverse? >> Outside temperature is slightly cold (less than 60 deg F) >> Wheel is straight or turned right >> > there's not many things it can be. prime candidates are motor mounts, > suspension componentry or running gear. in that order. unless you get > under the car and do some inspection work, there's not much more we can > do for you here other than advise taking the car back to the shop. > > but before you do that, there's one thing you need to understand - the > dealer that hosed you $900 for a /recon/ driveshaft should be jailed for > fraud. as for the brakes, again, entirely unnecessary and grossly > over-expensive. brakes grind, squeak or shudder - they don't thump. > find a good independent honda repair shop and qualify them with > questions about likely causes. get personal recommendations from > existing customers. off the top of my head, itd be worth it to swap the front and rear tires, and see if the noise goes away, or switches to the back |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose...
thanks for the reply. These are the parts that I have replaced so
far... will take it to some one else and have the ball joints checked... Parts Replaced so far... 1.REMAN SHAFT - $267.00 + $117.00 labor 2.FR. BRAKE DISC, FR. PAD SET, FR. BEARING ASSEMBLY, R FR CALIPER, CORE RETURN, L FR CALIPER, CORE RETURN, BRAKE DOT FLUID - $521.29 + 565.00 labor 3.MASTER CYLINDER - $166.68 + 110.00 LABOR |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose - HELP!!!
thanks for the reply - haven't tried it in reverse. will do so next.
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagn
i had the exact problem with my accord. check the cv axle. thats what
mine was. the grease inside was all dried up because the boot was old and cracked. all i did to temporarily fix it was put some bearing grease inside the boot...worked for me for about a month until i bought the new axle. good luck |
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94 Accord thumping noise from wheel area, dealer can't diagnose - HELP!!!
My Accord had a thump which turned out to be one of the plastic mud flaps
touching the wheel. Also check for a loose tyre (tire) tread or bulge. ON 5 Dec 2005 22:12:19 -0800, "junkcool" > WROTE: >thanks for the reply - haven't tried it in reverse. will do so next. |
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