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To CRWL out again is the real measure of a 4x4. This is my second Jeep. And unfortunately, at times, I've turned into more of a street Jeep. I've removed the underbody armor for a weight reduction and don't take my sleeper speedy Jeep offroad too much any more. I miss those days. Maybe I just need to get a CJ and spend some quality time doing the other thing Jeeps are good at. |
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Gary Powers proclaimed:
> What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. > BS alert! > BS alert! > Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? > Give me a break. > With a suitably modified engine, it isn't that overly heavy. However, I would expect the 4 wheel drive to be a disadvantage since a good launch for drag racing typically involves wheels leaving a bit of expensive rubber behind. Perhaps am wrong, but on a 2wd always got best street starts with a bit of cop alarm squeal. Or perhaps he has a Grand Cherokee SRT-8, where even the non-SRT version is a bit quicker than a midline Bimmer. |
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Gary Powers proclaimed:
> What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. > BS alert! > BS alert! > Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? > Give me a break. > With a suitably modified engine, it isn't that overly heavy. However, I would expect the 4 wheel drive to be a disadvantage since a good launch for drag racing typically involves wheels leaving a bit of expensive rubber behind. Perhaps am wrong, but on a 2wd always got best street starts with a bit of cop alarm squeal. Or perhaps he has a Grand Cherokee SRT-8, where even the non-SRT version is a bit quicker than a midline Bimmer. |
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Geoff proclaimed:
> > Gary Powers wrote: > > >>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:34:24 GMT >>From: Gary Powers > >>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, rec.autos.makers.chrysler >>Subject: Jeep VS others >> >>What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. >>BS alert! >>BS alert! >>Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? >>Give me a break. >> > > > I suppose you've never taken on a V8-powered Grand Cherokee in a local > stoplight Grand Prix? Let me assure you that I've found through hard > experience they can hold their own in 1/8 mile races, especially a 5.9L version. > A lot of this is due to the startle factor...plus really really good low end torque, typically more than a smaller buzzier motor can generate in that first critical few feet or so. |
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Geoff proclaimed:
> > Gary Powers wrote: > > >>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:34:24 GMT >>From: Gary Powers > >>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, rec.autos.makers.chrysler >>Subject: Jeep VS others >> >>What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. >>BS alert! >>BS alert! >>Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? >>Give me a break. >> > > > I suppose you've never taken on a V8-powered Grand Cherokee in a local > stoplight Grand Prix? Let me assure you that I've found through hard > experience they can hold their own in 1/8 mile races, especially a 5.9L version. > A lot of this is due to the startle factor...plus really really good low end torque, typically more than a smaller buzzier motor can generate in that first critical few feet or so. |
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griffin wrote:
> On the road, I'd like to see you race a stock BMW M3 or M5. Those M5's are > like lightning. Make it an endurance race- the krautmobiles will fall to pieces before the Jeep :-p > What about an Escalade? No idea how fast they are stock, but they sure have > alot of power. Then again ...that's a lot of vehicle to get moving. Escalade = big fat pig. And the 5.9 Magnum with the mods mentioned has "alot" (sic) of power too. |
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griffin wrote:
> On the road, I'd like to see you race a stock BMW M3 or M5. Those M5's are > like lightning. Make it an endurance race- the krautmobiles will fall to pieces before the Jeep :-p > What about an Escalade? No idea how fast they are stock, but they sure have > alot of power. Then again ...that's a lot of vehicle to get moving. Escalade = big fat pig. And the 5.9 Magnum with the mods mentioned has "alot" (sic) of power too. |
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Gary Powers wrote:
> What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. > BS alert! > BS alert! > Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? > Give me a break. > Heh heh heh... here's another sucker for you guys... :-) Don't forget the setting: 1/8 mile drags. Torque rules, "sports cars" drool. |
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Gary Powers wrote:
> What? A fast Jeep? Are Jeeps really that fast? This sounds like BS. > BS alert! > BS alert! > Maybe a Jeep vs another suv but sports cars? > Give me a break. > Heh heh heh... here's another sucker for you guys... :-) Don't forget the setting: 1/8 mile drags. Torque rules, "sports cars" drool. |
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griffin proclaimed:
> On the road, I'd like to see you race a stock BMW M3 or M5. Those M5's are > like lightning. More like dry lightning. Smokable by a Grand Cherokee without even working up a sweat. Plus you can always tow 'em home with the Grand after they crap out. > What about an Escalade? No idea how fast they are stock, but they sure have > alot of power. Then again ...that's a lot of vehicle to get moving. Lotsa power !=fast. Lotsa power + low weight + gearing = fast |
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