Best Supercharger for 04 GT ?

Mike,

Points are all well taken. The charter wasn't posted, and once it was
brought to my attention, I won't advertise. And I haven't since I was
informed of the rules. Now the question I have, if someone asks,
should I respond? I mean, if I can help someone save money, would I
not be a contributing member?

Everyone, have a good weekend.

-Tom



"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
> You need to understand that parts sellers come to this group quite often
> thinking they have found a new place to hock their products. They do
> just like you have done which is blatantly advertise their stuff. Then
> they find that most of us don't appreciate it and make it clear to the
> poster. Now you are at a cross roads. You can either keep up the
> irritating behavior, leave never to heard from again or you can stay and
> become a contributing member and knock off the salesman crap. No one
> here (including myself) will have any issues should you decide to
> frequent our group and leave the sales pitches behind. We have a
> gentleman here that sells parts but doesn't push himself on the rest of
> us. In fact, many of us actually seek him out when a part is needed.
> He is a class act. This proves that you can strike a balance here that
> works for the benefit of everyone, including yourself. What direction
> you go from here is completely up to you.
>
> FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
> supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds with
> bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported GT-40X heads
> (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam; Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm
> Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers; 42# fuel injectors;
> complete upgraded fuel system from tank to injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller
> rockers; high flow water pump; three row radiator; SMC water/alcohol
> injection system (aka intercooler in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch;
> 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda
> shifter; J&S Safeguard; digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL
> ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug conversion with SN95 front
> spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated slotted rotors with carbon
> fiber break pads; relocated battery to hatch area; Autometer boost and
> fuel pressure gauges mounted on the A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe
> connectors. I've probably missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>
> FastAutoSports wrote:
> > OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
> > to you
> >
> > As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
> > what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
> > least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
> > that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
> > showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.
> >
> > While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
> > for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
> > are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
> > millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
> > 'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
> > Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
> > them down if they are so ****ty.
> >
> > My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
> > warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
> > I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
> > don't push them into something they don't need or want.
> >
> > What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
> > way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
> > and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
> > my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
> > legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
> > love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
> > need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
> > have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
> > change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
> > Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.
> >
> > BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
> > too, huh.
> >
> > Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
> > this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
> > country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
> > people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
> > Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
> > aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.
> >
> > My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
> > whatnot.
> >
> > Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
> > lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
> > next weekend, lol
> >
> > Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
> > about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.
> >
> > -Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>
> >>>LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
> >>>because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
> >>>games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
> >>>or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
> >>>think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
> >>>satify your need for importance.
> >>
> >>You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
> >>called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
> >>indeed post here in the group.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
> >>>them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
> >>>By an ethical member and enthusiast.
> >>
> >>One of your many supporters?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
> >>>long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
> >>>have not figured out what it is.
> >>
> >>I figured you out from your first few posts.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
> >>>600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
> >>>I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
> >>>high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
> >>>wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
> >>>well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
> >>>for whatever is manufactured.
> >>
> >>Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
> >>this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
> >>supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol' thread.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
> >>>WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
> >>>enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
> >>>thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
> >>>thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
> >>
> >>Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
> >>sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
> >>make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
> >>choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
> >>recommending a POS part to your customers.
> >>
> >>BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
> >>My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
> >>even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower kits.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
> >>>time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
> >>>their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
> >>>a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
> >>
> >>I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
> >>a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
> >>However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
> >>screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Have a good evening.
> >>
> >>Wouldn't have it any other way.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
> >>
> >>Sorry, I can't say the same.
> >>
> >>
> >>>-Tom
> >>>
> >>>PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
> >>>could get off this dead horse.
> >>
> >>I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
> >>you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
> >>>>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
> >>>>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
> >>>>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we just
> >>>>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
>
> >>>>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding the
>
> >>>>hen house.
> >>>>
> >>>>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
> >>>>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position to
> >>>>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
> >>>>
> >>>>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
> >>>>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne Bell?
> >>>>
> >>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>People People People,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
> >>>>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
> >>>>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its kinda
> >>>>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
> >>>>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
> >>>>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
> >>>>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
> >>>>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
> >>>>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
> >>>>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
> >>>>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
> >>>>>sense" for me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
> >>>>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
> >>>>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
> >>>>>maybe they share your opinions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
> >>>>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
> >>>>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
> >>>>>flies on, well you know...............
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Have a good evening.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-Tom
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> > wrote in message .com>...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Seconded.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--
> >>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>>>Cold air intake
> >>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>>>Subframe connectors
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying to
> >>>>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about the
> >>>>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
> >>>>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general. We're
> >>>>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with each
> >>>>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am always
> >>>>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you don't
> >>>>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response toward
> >>>>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
> >>>>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is made
> >>>>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we have
> >>>>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
> >>>>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along with
> >>>>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate, order
> >>>>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an aviation
> >>>>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending your
> >>>>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our politicians
> >>>>>>>>say the enemy is.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
> >>>>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
> >>>>>>>>matter.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>-Tom
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> > wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> rodigy.com>...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've heard
> >>>>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research &
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>speaking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they are
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>doing. A
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs like a
> >>>>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am thoroughly
> >>>>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as Michael
> >>>>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at the cost
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>of a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from any
> >>>>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>-Mike
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
> >>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need more
> >>>>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB blower for
> >>>>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine than
> >>>>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you add all
> >>>>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits the
> >>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me that
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>GT,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford Mustang
> >>>>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than the
> >>>>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three have very
> >>>>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences and how
> >>>>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>
> . pas.earthlink.net>...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
> >>>>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>GT

Welcome aboard. I would recommend doing it only if the person needing
parts specifically asks for your help and then do the detail
communications via email. Others may have some suggestions too.

FastAutoSports wrote:
> Mike,
>
> Points are all well taken. The charter wasn't posted, and once it was
> brought to my attention, I won't advertise. And I haven't since I was
> informed of the rules. Now the question I have, if someone asks,
> should I respond? I mean, if I can help someone save money, would I
> not be a contributing member?
>
> Everyone, have a good weekend.
>
> -Tom
>
>
>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>
>>You need to understand that parts sellers come to this group quite often
>>thinking they have found a new place to hock their products. They do
>>just like you have done which is blatantly advertise their stuff. Then
>>they find that most of us don't appreciate it and make it clear to the
>>poster. Now you are at a cross roads. You can either keep up the
>>irritating behavior, leave never to heard from again or you can stay and
>>become a contributing member and knock off the salesman crap. No one
>>here (including myself) will have any issues should you decide to
>>frequent our group and leave the sales pitches behind. We have a
>>gentleman here that sells parts but doesn't push himself on the rest of
>>us. In fact, many of us actually seek him out when a part is needed.
>>He is a class act. This proves that you can strike a balance here that
>>works for the benefit of everyone, including yourself. What direction
>>you go from here is completely up to you.
>>
>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds with
>>bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported GT-40X heads
>>(64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam; Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm
>>Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers; 42# fuel injectors;
>>complete upgraded fuel system from tank to injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller
>>rockers; high flow water pump; three row radiator; SMC water/alcohol
>>injection system (aka intercooler in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch;
>>2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda
>>shifter; J&S Safeguard; digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL
>>ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug conversion with SN95 front
>>spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated slotted rotors with carbon
>>fiber break pads; relocated battery to hatch area; Autometer boost and
>>fuel pressure gauges mounted on the A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe
>>connectors. I've probably missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>>
>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>
>>>OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
>>>to you
>>>
>>>As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
>>>what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
>>>least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
>>>that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
>>>showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.
>>>
>>>While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
>>>for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
>>>are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
>>>millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
>>>'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
>>>Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
>>>them down if they are so ****ty.
>>>
>>>My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
>>>warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
>>>I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
>>>don't push them into something they don't need or want.
>>>
>>>What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
>>>way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
>>>and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
>>>my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
>>>legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
>>>love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
>>>need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
>>>have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
>>>change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
>>>Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.
>>>
>>>BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
>>>too, huh.
>>>
>>>Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
>>>this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
>>>country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
>>>people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
>>>Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
>>>aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.
>>>
>>>My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
>>>whatnot.
>>>
>>>Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
>>>lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
>>>next weekend, lol
>>>
>>>Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
>>>about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>>>
>>>
>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
>>>>>because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
>>>>>games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
>>>>>or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
>>>>>think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
>>>>>satify your need for importance.
>>>>
>>>>You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
>>>>called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
>>>>indeed post here in the group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
>>>>>them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
>>>>>By an ethical member and enthusiast.
>>>>
>>>>One of your many supporters?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
>>>>>long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
>>>>>have not figured out what it is.
>>>>
>>>>I figured you out from your first few posts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
>>>>>600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
>>>>>I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
>>>>>high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
>>>>>wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
>>>>>well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
>>>>>for whatever is manufactured.
>>>>
>>>>Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
>>>>this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
>>>>supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol' thread.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
>>>>>WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
>>>>>enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
>>>>>thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
>>>>>thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
>>>>sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
>>>>make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
>>>>choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
>>>>recommending a POS part to your customers.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
>>>>My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
>>>>even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower kits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
>>>>>time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
>>>>>their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
>>>>>a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
>>>>
>>>>I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
>>>>a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
>>>>However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
>>>>screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Have a good evening.
>>>>
>>>>Wouldn't have it any other way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, I can't say the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
>>>>>could get off this dead horse.
>>>>
>>>>I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
>>>>you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
>>>>>>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
>>>>>>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
>>>>>>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we just
>>>>>>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding the
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>hen house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
>>>>>>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position to
>>>>>>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
>>>>>>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne Bell?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>People People People,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
>>>>>>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
>>>>>>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its kinda
>>>>>>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
>>>>>>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
>>>>>>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
>>>>>>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
>>>>>>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
>>>>>>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
>>>>>>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
>>>>>>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
>>>>>>>sense" for me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
>>>>>>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
>>>>>>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
>>>>>>>maybe they share your opinions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
>>>>>>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
>>>>>>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
>>>>>>>flies on, well you know...............
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have a good evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
> wrote in message .com>...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seconded.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying to
>>>>>>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about the
>>>>>>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
>>>>>>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general. We're
>>>>>>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with each
>>>>>>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am always
>>>>>>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you don't
>>>>>>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response toward
>>>>>>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
>>>>>>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is made
>>>>>>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we have
>>>>>>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
>>>>>>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along with
>>>>>>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate, order
>>>>>>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an aviation
>>>>>>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending your
>>>>>>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our politicians
>>>>>>>>>>say the enemy is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
>>>>>>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
>>>>>>>>>>matter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>
.prodigy.com>...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've heard
>>>>>>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research &
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>speaking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>doing. A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs like a
>>>>>>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am thoroughly
>>>>>>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at the cost
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from any
>>>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need more
>>>>>>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB blower for
>>>>>>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine than
>>>>>>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you add all
>>>>>>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits the
>>>>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford Mustang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three have very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences and how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>
s.pas.earthlink.net>...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT

I would'nt object to a small reference to the business in the sig. but thats
just me. Anyone else?

Dave

"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
> Welcome aboard. I would recommend doing it only if the person needing
> parts specifically asks for your help and then do the detail
> communications via email. Others may have some suggestions too.
>
> FastAutoSports wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> Points are all well taken. The charter wasn't posted, and once it was
>> brought to my attention, I won't advertise. And I haven't since I was
>> informed of the rules. Now the question I have, if someone asks,
>> should I respond? I mean, if I can help someone save money, would I
>> not be a contributing member?
>>
>> Everyone, have a good weekend.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
>> >...
>>
>>>You need to understand that parts sellers come to this group quite often
>>>thinking they have found a new place to hock their products. They do
>>>just like you have done which is blatantly advertise their stuff. Then
>>>they find that most of us don't appreciate it and make it clear to the
>>>poster. Now you are at a cross roads. You can either keep up the
>>>irritating behavior, leave never to heard from again or you can stay and
>>>become a contributing member and knock off the salesman crap. No one
>>>here (including myself) will have any issues should you decide to
>>>frequent our group and leave the sales pitches behind. We have a
>>>gentleman here that sells parts but doesn't push himself on the rest of
>>>us. In fact, many of us actually seek him out when a part is needed. He
>>>is a class act. This proves that you can strike a balance here that
>>>works for the benefit of everyone, including yourself. What direction
>>>you go from here is completely up to you.
>>>
>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds with
>>>bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported GT-40X heads
>>>(64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam; Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm
>>>Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers; 42# fuel injectors; complete
>>>upgraded fuel system from tank to injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers;
>>>high flow water pump; three row radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection
>>>system (aka intercooler in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe;
>>>Dynomax Ultraflow after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S
>>>Safeguard; digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5
>>>lug conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to hatch
>>>area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the A-pillar;
>>>TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably missed a few things
>>>but those are the highlights.
>>>
>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
>>>>to you
>>>>
>>>>As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
>>>>what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
>>>>least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
>>>>that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
>>>>showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.
>>>>
>>>>While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
>>>>for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
>>>>are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
>>>>millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
>>>>'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
>>>>Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
>>>>them down if they are so ****ty.
>>>>
>>>>My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
>>>>warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
>>>>I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
>>>>don't push them into something they don't need or want.
>>>>
>>>>What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
>>>>way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
>>>>and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
>>>>my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
>>>>legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
>>>>love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
>>>>need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
>>>>have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
>>>>change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
>>>>Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
>>>>too, huh.
>>>>
>>>>Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
>>>>this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
>>>>country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
>>>>people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
>>>>Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
>>>>aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.
>>>>
>>>>My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
>>>>whatnot.
>>>>
>>>>Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
>>>>lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
>>>>next weekend, lol
>>>>
>>>>Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
>>>>about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.
>>>>
>>>>-Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
>...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
>>>>>>because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
>>>>>>games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
>>>>>>or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
>>>>>>think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
>>>>>>satify your need for importance.
>>>>>
>>>>>You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
>>>>>called supporters. This should already be public information if they
>>>>>do indeed post here in the group.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
>>>>>>them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
>>>>>>By an ethical member and enthusiast.
>>>>>
>>>>>One of your many supporters?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
>>>>>>long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
>>>>>>have not figured out what it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>I figured you out from your first few posts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
>>>>>>600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
>>>>>>I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
>>>>>>high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
>>>>>>wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
>>>>>>well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
>>>>>>for whatever is manufactured.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace.
>>>>>All this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert
>>>>>on supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol'
>>>>>thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
>>>>>>WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
>>>>>>enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
>>>>>>thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
>>>>>>thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
>>>>>sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
>>>>>make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
>>>>>choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
>>>>>recommending a POS part to your customers.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
>>>>>My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
>>>>>even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower
>>>>>kits.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
>>>>>>time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
>>>>>>their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
>>>>>>a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
>>>>>
>>>>>I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there
>>>>>is a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
>>>>>However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
>>>>>screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Have a good evening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wouldn't have it any other way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, I can't say the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
>>>>>>could get off this dead horse.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
>>>>>you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
>...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
>>>>>>>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in
>>>>>>>question then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll
>>>>>>>read and keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding
>>>>>>>that we just don't take well to vendors making recommendations for
>>>>>>>parts they sell
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding
>>>>>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>hen house.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack
>>>>>>>of knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our
>>>>>>>position to not trust vendors who use this group to mine for
>>>>>>>customers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
>>>>>>>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne
>>>>>>>Bell?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>People People People,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a
>>>>>>>>great
>>>>>>>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
>>>>>>>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its
>>>>>>>>kinda
>>>>>>>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if
>>>>>>>>someone
>>>>>>>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
>>>>>>>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
>>>>>>>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
>>>>>>>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
>>>>>>>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't.
>>>>>>>>Hell,
>>>>>>>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
>>>>>>>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
>>>>>>>>sense" for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
>>>>>>>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
>>>>>>>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
>>>>>>>>maybe they share your opinions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
>>>>>>>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I
>>>>>>>>gave
>>>>>>>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
>>>>>>>>flies on, well you know...............
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
>>>>>>>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have a good evening.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> wrote in message
.prodigy.com>...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Seconded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes
>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general.
>>>>>>>>>>We're
>>>>>>>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with
>>>>>>>>>>each
>>>>>>>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am
>>>>>>>>>>always
>>>>>>>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you
>>>>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response
>>>>>>>>>>toward
>>>>>>>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>I'm
>>>>>>>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is
>>>>>>>>>>>made
>>>>>>>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we
>>>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just
>>>>>>>>>>>isnt
>>>>>>>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate,
>>>>>>>>>>>order
>>>>>>>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an
>>>>>>>>>>>aviation
>>>>>>>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending
>>>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our
>>>>>>>>>>>politicians
>>>>>>>>>>>say the enemy is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
>>>>>>>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
>>>>>>>>>>>matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
s.prodigy.com>...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research
>>>>>>>>>>>>&
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>speaking
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doing. A
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car &
>>>>>>>>>>>>runs like a
>>>>>>>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>thoroughly
>>>>>>>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as
>>>>>>>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>>>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>the cost
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower
>>>>>>>>>>>>from any
>>>>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>blower for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>add all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>kits the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mustang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>have very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>
ws.pas.earthlink.net>...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>intercooled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GT

"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...

> >>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
> >>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
> >>>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
> >>>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
> >>>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
> >>>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
> >>>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three
> >>>>row radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler
> >>>>in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
> >>>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
> >>>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
> >>>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
> >>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
> >>>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
> >>>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
> >>>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.

> It is a sleeper. From the outside it looks like a bone stock LX 5.0L
> with 2000 GT rims/tires. The most surprised are Vette and F-Body owners
> because they think I'll be an easy mark. The best to humiliate them is
> to stay even through first and second then leave them behind in third.
> That's when they figure the car isn't exactly stock. I take care of
> the rice burners by blipping the throttle at a red light.

Very cool! My kind of car!

The hobby needs more like you, Mike.

Patrick
'93 Cobra
'83 LTD

Patrick wrote:
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>
>
>>>>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>>>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
>>>>>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
>>>>>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
>>>>>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
>>>>>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
>>>>>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three
>>>>>>row radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler
>>>>>>in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
>>>>>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
>>>>>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
>>>>>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
>>>>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
>>>>>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
>>>>>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
>>>>>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>
>
>>It is a sleeper. From the outside it looks like a bone stock LX 5.0L
>>with 2000 GT rims/tires. The most surprised are Vette and F-Body owners
>>because they think I'll be an easy mark. The best to humiliate them is
>>to stay even through first and second then leave them behind in third.
>>That's when they figure the car isn't exactly stock. I take care of
>>the rice burners by blipping the throttle at a red light.
>
>
> Very cool! My kind of car!
>
> The hobby needs more like you, Mike.

Thanks Patrick. I subscribe to the Teddy Roosevelt philosophy of hot
rodding... "Speak softly and carry a big stick". One of my pet peeves
is to always keep the stock hood. IMO, that is a must for keeping it a
sleeper. The reason I'm going to do the 427W stroker motor is I finally
found a K-member and engine mount combo that lowers the 351W block
enough to retain the stock hood.

It is funny how the younger crowd responds to the car. In todays ricer
world it's all about "show and no go". When they see a real sleeper
it's like a light bulb turns on above their heads. Many of them have
never been exposed to that concept and when they are they find it to be
a cool idea. All the younger kids that hang around our house have been
converted from the ricer mentality. It's funny to hear them tell a
newbie to our house that if they want to experience a really fast car
they need to ask me for a ride. One ride is usually all it takes for
the conversion to be complete.

O.K. This is not meant as a smart ass reply so please hear me out as I have
a real curiosity. Why would you buy an '04 GT to put 5 or 6k worth of engine
work into it when an '04 Cobra sells for about the same price (as the GT
with the engine mods). Difference being Better heads, transmission and rear
end, stronger rods and pistons. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I am
honestly curious
"Dinsdale" > wrote in message
...
>I guess it depends on what you're getting away from.
>
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:13:44 GMT, A > wrote:
>
>>Could one get away with nothing more than a CAI and a Kenne Bell
>>supercharger on an 04 GT?
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:53:58 -0500, Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
>>
>>> Kenne Bell is my recommendation. You get top end hp and low end torque
>>> from one blower. Can't beat the KB's overall performance unless you
>>> install twin turbos.
>>>
>>> Recon_ wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
>>>> supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
>>>> @ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
>>>> people who have installed one.
>>>>
>>>> Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> GT
>>>>
>>>>
>
> DP
> Pics of the cars:
> http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn

Insurance is one. 2nd... somewhat of a sleeper. Plus it's a bit more
"unique" than just going out & buying a factory supercharged 03/04 Cobra. If
it were *MY* choice though.. I'd snag an 04 SVT Cobra & just pay the
insurance. I don't think I could keep a smile off my face.

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"Michael Seeley" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> O.K. This is not meant as a smart ass reply so please hear me out as I
have
> a real curiosity. Why would you buy an '04 GT to put 5 or 6k worth of
engine
> work into it when an '04 Cobra sells for about the same price (as the GT
> with the engine mods). Difference being Better heads, transmission and
rear
> end, stronger rods and pistons. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I am
> honestly curious
> "Dinsdale" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I guess it depends on what you're getting away from.
> >
> > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:13:44 GMT, A > wrote:
> >
> >>Could one get away with nothing more than a CAI and a Kenne Bell
> >>supercharger on an 04 GT?
> >>
> >>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:53:58 -0500, Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kenne Bell is my recommendation. You get top end hp and low end
torque
> >>> from one blower. Can't beat the KB's overall performance unless you
> >>> install twin turbos.
> >>>
> >>> Recon_ wrote:
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
> >>>> supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
> >>>> @ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
> >>>> people who have installed one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> GT
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> > DP
> > Pics of the cars:
> > http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn
>
>

Insurance was not that much more. About $150 every 6 months and that was
from an 02 gt to an 03 cobra and the pay out would not take the GT add ons
into account
> wrote in message
. com...
> Insurance is one. 2nd... somewhat of a sleeper. Plus it's a bit more
> "unique" than just going out & buying a factory supercharged 03/04 Cobra.
> If
> it were *MY* choice though.. I'd snag an 04 SVT Cobra & just pay the
> insurance. I don't think I could keep a smile off my face.
>
> -Mike
>
> --
> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> Cold air intake
> FRPP 3.73 gears
> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
> Hi-speed fan switch
> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> Subframe connectors
>
>
> "Michael Seeley" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> O.K. This is not meant as a smart ass reply so please hear me out as I
> have
>> a real curiosity. Why would you buy an '04 GT to put 5 or 6k worth of
> engine
>> work into it when an '04 Cobra sells for about the same price (as the GT
>> with the engine mods). Difference being Better heads, transmission and
> rear
>> end, stronger rods and pistons. I'm not trying to start a flame war, I am
>> honestly curious
>> "Dinsdale" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I guess it depends on what you're getting away from.
>> >
>> > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 00:13:44 GMT, A > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Could one get away with nothing more than a CAI and a Kenne Bell
>> >>supercharger on an 04 GT?
>> >>
>> >>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:53:58 -0500, Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Kenne Bell is my recommendation. You get top end hp and low end
> torque
>> >>> from one blower. Can't beat the KB's overall performance unless you
>> >>> install twin turbos.
>> >>>
>> >>> Recon_ wrote:
>> >>>> Hi All,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
>> >>>> supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
>> >>>> @ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
>> >>>> people who have installed one.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> GT
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>> > DP
>> > Pics of the cars:
>> > http://tinyurl.com/4fcsn
>>
>>
>
>