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96 Caravan Transmission Slippage
Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and
the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? Jack |
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Friend of the Doktor wrote: > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack From All-Par (http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html) All Chrysler four-speed automatic transmissions* are very sensitive to the quality of the transmission fluid. Only use the ATF+[3 or 4] in these transmissions. Do not use Dexron or Mercon. Ed |
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Friend of the Doktor wrote: > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack From All-Par (http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html) All Chrysler four-speed automatic transmissions* are very sensitive to the quality of the transmission fluid. Only use the ATF+[3 or 4] in these transmissions. Do not use Dexron or Mercon. Ed |
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The battle may not be too hard for you to fight. The shop knows it put
Dexron in, and the transmission in your van MUST have ATF +3 or +4. "Friend of the Doktor" > wrote in message news:dTFfd.40137$Pl.38147@pd7tw1no... > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack > > |
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The battle may not be too hard for you to fight. The shop knows it put
Dexron in, and the transmission in your van MUST have ATF +3 or +4. "Friend of the Doktor" > wrote in message news:dTFfd.40137$Pl.38147@pd7tw1no... > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack > > |
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These trans sometimes have a short life, a weak link. Had mine replaced
@86000 for about 1500.00 the owners manual may say Dextron is OK to use, but it will damage your trans. It destroys electrical parts. May take a year or so, but it will. Go to a dealer parts counter and get genuine Chrysler fluid recommended for your specific auto. "Friend of the Doktor" > wrote in message news:dTFfd.40137$Pl.38147@pd7tw1no... > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with > Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the > dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved > performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission > problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack > > |
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These trans sometimes have a short life, a weak link. Had mine replaced
@86000 for about 1500.00 the owners manual may say Dextron is OK to use, but it will damage your trans. It destroys electrical parts. May take a year or so, but it will. Go to a dealer parts counter and get genuine Chrysler fluid recommended for your specific auto. "Friend of the Doktor" > wrote in message news:dTFfd.40137$Pl.38147@pd7tw1no... > Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and > the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with > Dexron > III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging > particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some > discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the > dip > stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved > performance > but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them > drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still > experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the > Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission > problems > before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas? > > Jack > > |
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Idiots. None of these places I have gone to seem to know you have to use +3
or +4 in these. Even my 88 Aries needed it and its a three speed automatic. They put Dexron into that and the tranny started to act up right away. Put in =3 and its fine. They damn near killed my 90 LeBaron with Dexron saying they had an additive that converted Dexron to +3. BS. The stuff didn't do a damn thing and I had to go toAutozone, buy a case of +3 and they put that it. After that, the trannie runs great. Yet, both places I dealt with were ignorant of +3. I wonder how many trannies have died because of people thinking they were doing the right thing by having their transmission fluid changed. How much of a bad rap on Mopar transmission is just because they failed to get the work out about the fluid. |
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What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
overdrive (604, I believe) transmission? What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the difference between the fluids)? |
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James Goforth wrote:
> What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic > overdrive (604, I believe) transmission? > What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the > difference between the fluids)? > Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4. Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you will save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics will cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get damaged as the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec fluid, and you then will pay about a hundred times more money than you saved by using Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed. DON'T USE DEXRON in it. PERIOD. |
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