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Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!
The Hurricane is back.
A year after Ford Motor Co. killed its planned Hemi-fighting V-8 to the dismay of horsepower junkies, Ford Americas group chief Mark Fields has put the high-performance engine back in the company's product pipeline, according to sources familiar with the project. Fields revived the engine three months ago as part of a new restructuring plan for the automaker. The decision offers a telling insight into how serious Fields is about shaking things up at Ford, underscoring his repeated assertions that nothing is off the table when it comes to reshaping the automaker's troubled North American auto operations, which lost $1.6 billion last year. Ford nixed the Hurricane project because of concerns about development costs and rising gasoline prices. Now, Fields has decided that maintaining Ford's leadership in the pickup truck market against mounting challenges from rivals General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group trumps those concerns. Many analysts were dismayed by Ford's decision to halt development of the Hurricane, which will likely get a new name before hitting the market. "It was a dumb program to kill," said Jim Hall, an analyst with AutoPacific in Southfield. Hall said Ford got spooked by soaring fuel prices last spring, which seemed to spell bad news for thirsty high-horsepower engines. However, he said long-term analysis shows that, while demand for big engines may ebb and flow as a result of gasoline prices or other factors, it remains steady over time. Erich Merkle, a brand analyst with IRN Inc. in Grand Rapids, is not surprised Ford decided to revive the Hurricane. "They've got to do something from a powertrain perspective if they're going to hold on to the F-series' lead," he said, noting that both GM and Chrysler have more powerful engines on the market, particularly in their trucks and sport utilities. "Ford has nothing," Merkle said. "Without those bigger options, they are going to have a hard time competing." Ford does have some big engines, but none that can compete with the 425-horsepower 6.1-liter Hemi or the 403-horsepower Vortec that will equip the 2007 Cadillac Escalade SUV. With its 300-horsepower Triton, Ford's2007 Lincoln Navigator will have a hard time keeping up with the Escalade. When it comes to engines, few have captured the public's imagination like Chrysler's Hemi. The Hemi's roots go back to the 1950s, but the vaunted powerhouse disappeared from production cars in 1974, a victim of new government fuel economy requirements. Chrysler reintroduced a new Hemi in the 2003 Dodge Ram Heavy Duty pickup. Ford wants theHurricane to more than a match these engines and help ensure the automaker stays on top of the hotly-contested truck segment. As Chrysler has shown with Hemi, however, automakers also can command a price premium for high-performance powertrains. That means the Hurricane could help Ford's bottom line. Merkle said Ford's Cleveland casting plant has received orders for a new 6.2-liter engine block, with work to begin next year. "We believe that would be the Hurricane," he said. However, the Hurricane is not likely to make landfall before 2008. It will probably debut in Ford's F-series pickups. A team has visited Ford's Dearborn Truck factory, where F-150s are made, to assess what changes will be needed to accommodate the new engine on the line there. But sources say the Hurricane also will be used in other platforms. NoOp Comment: You can bet one platform will be the Mustang to ensure it matches up with two upcoming pony cars -- i.e. 6.1L Challenger and 6.0L Camaro. Paraphasing a line in the movie Animal House, 'Oh man, this is going to be good!' While Ford's engine may not incorporate the sort of cylinder deactivation system found in the Hemi and Vortec, sources say it will offer similar fuel economy. Other approaches that could be used to realize these gains include using the sort of multi-valve systems found on some German engines. Whatever method Ford employs, the emphasis will remain on horsepower. Patrick |
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Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!
If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply call it the
"Cleveland" or better yet, "Cobra Jet"! Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi" moniker -- John |
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Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!
John wrote:
> If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply call it the > "Cleveland" or better yet, "Cobra Jet"! > Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi" moniker Because that would make too much sense. 8-) |
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John wrote:
> If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply call it the > "Cleveland" I don't think "Cleveland" would resonate with too many modern buyers, because the name doesn't have a long storied past like the Hemi did. However, in the future, I'll bet a few new Mustang owners refer to their Hurricane's as Clevelands. > or better yet, "Cobra Jet"! Not for the engine name itself, but perhaps for the high-output package. > Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi" moniker John, I think Ford is finally fully in touch with what makes a Mustang a Mustang. I think we'll see a whole slew of novelty Mustangs in the future. Patrick |
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Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!
Joe wrote:
Oh ye, of little faith... Let's go back 10 years ago. Back then did we think there was a snowball's chance in hell we'd ever see a new: Bullitt Mustang Mach 1 Supercharged Cobra Mustang, and one putting out 400 HP GT-40 (Ford GT) True retro-style Mustang ('05) 300HP in the standard GT Mustang Shelby Mustang (GT-500) C'mon, Joe. Give Ford some credit. Yeah, financially they're getting their butt kicked right now, but at least they're fighting back. A lucky us, part of their fight is for us enthusiasts. Patrick > > John wrote: > >> If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply call > >> it the "Cleveland" > > > > I don't think "Cleveland" would resonate with too many modern buyers, > > because the name doesn't have a long storied past like the Hemi did. > > However, in the future, I'll bet a few new Mustang owners refer to > > their Hurricane's as Clevelands. > > > >> or better yet, "Cobra Jet"! > > > > Not for the engine name itself, but perhaps for the high-output > > package. > > > >> Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi" > >> moniker > > > > John, > > > > I think Ford is finally fully in touch with what makes a Mustang a > > Mustang. I think we'll see a whole slew of novelty Mustangs in the > > future. > > > > Patrick > > a) The only hurricanes we'll see soon are ones like we saw last year. > Katrina and Wilma to name two. > > b) The only thing Ford is in touch with is the fact that they're sinking > right along side GM. > > c) If we start seeing "novelty" Mustangs, it'll be simply because Ford > needs to capitalize on the only decent car they make. |
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"Brent P" > wrote > I still think ford would be well served to bring their aussie cars over. That Falcon does kick ass! -- Scott W. '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ |
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Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!
In article >, Michael Johnson, PE wrote:
> As bad as things are for Ford right now they are nowhere near as bad as > they were for them in the late 1970s and early 1980s. If they could get > out of that mess they should be able to do the same now. Funny because > back then one of the first of their models to mark the comeback was the > 1979 Mustang. I'm not ready to start eulogizing them just yet. That fits the theory pretty well... remember how just about everything ended up on the 'fox' platform? Tbird, granada, cougar, mustang, LTD, fairmont, etc...Lots of variants of the car platform that was selling... |
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