gas prices too high or too low?

The Ancient One wrote:
> "Default User" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ben wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't know know if the question has been asked before, but humor me
>>> for a bit and share your thoughts on gas prices and if ya think
>>> driving an SUV is unpatriotic?
>>
>>
>> He he. All the talk about gas prices amuse me. When I hired in to the
>> cumpnee in 1981, gas prices were about $1.20 or so, and I made about
>> 1/3 of what I do now. That didn't stop me from buying my 1980 Blazer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Rodenborn
>
> Heh, I remember when gas first hit 50 cents a gallon, man that was
> high. ;-)

Me too. Been there, done that, hated it, and moved on.

Gas prices: too high

Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high

Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough

SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.




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Gas prices: too high

Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high

Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough

SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.




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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:12:55 UTC "Dave Hill" > wrote:

> Gas prices: too high
>
> Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high
>
> Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough
>
> SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
> taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
> haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
> like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
> seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
> small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
> out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
> all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
> need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.
>
>
>
>
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:12:55 UTC "Dave Hill" > wrote:

> Gas prices: too high
>
> Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high
>
> Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough
>
> SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
> taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
> haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
> like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
> seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
> small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
> out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
> all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
> need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.
>
>
>
>
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In article >, says...
> Gas prices: too high
>
> Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high
>
> Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough
>
> SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
> taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
> haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
> like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
> seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
> small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
> out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
> all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
> need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.
>

People don't NEED to be driving at all, so unless you have a bus pass
you're just talking out of your ass.

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In article >, says...
> Gas prices: too high
>
> Our dependence on fossil fuels: WAY WAY too high
>
> Research & development on cheaper alternative fuels: not high enough
>
> SUV's: They suck. I can see using one *occasionally*. Like if you're
> taking a vacation with spouse and three kids, and you have tons of stuff to
> haul. But how often does that really happen? For just general day trips,
> like going to work each day, and especially if you're driving alone, an SUV
> seems like massive overkill. And try pulling out of a parking space in a
> small car when all the surrounding vehicles are SUV's. You end up halfway
> out in the road already before you can see if anything is coming because
> all the damn SUV's are blocking the view. Surely *all* these people don't
> need to be driving a freakin' tank. It's ridiculous.
>

People don't NEED to be driving at all, so unless you have a bus pass
you're just talking out of your ass.

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I wan't around around druning ww II, but I have read that in otder to
help the war effort people at home did their share by conservation.

their sacrifice helped divert resources to help the militray - just
think if people then had the same attitude now, what would happen if
people back then said hey I want to drive my SUV and use excess fuel
just so I could haul my fat butt around town instead of conserving gas
for the war effort?????

isn't being patriotic wanting what is best for the national interests,
if gas is a scarce resource that is foreign produced they why drive
something that is not really necessary?

I think it was president kennedy who said, "ask not what your country
can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

by driving an suv that might not be the most efficent vehicle for the
job (and makes this country more at the mercy of OPEC), then that is
what I am trying to say is is unpatriotic.....

masturbation on the other hand (get the pun) is neither unpatriotic or
patriotic because it does not depend upon the resources of a foreign
country.....

I've got to go now and visit the local titty bar and get a lap dance -
that my friend is being patriotic (blowing a wad locally).






"Sgt. Sausage" > wrote in message >...
> "ben" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Don't know know if the question has been asked before, but humor me
> > for a bit and share your thoughts on gas prices
>
> Which thoughts exactly?
>
> Relative to the world, I think we're far to low on
> gas prices.
>
> Relative to past domestic prices, taking into
> consideration inflation, I still think we're too low.
>
> On the other hand, in general, I think they're too
> high -- but only because I'm a consumer seeking
> to reduce my expenses. I've no idea what the "ideal"
> price of a gallon is in the U.S, but I'd like to think it's
> a helluva lot lower than we're paying now and I'd like
> to think we actually have a chance of reducing the
> current prices to that "ideal" price.
>
> > and if ya think
> > driving an SUV is unpatriotic?
>
> Dumb question.
>
> Is drinking coffee unpatriotic?
>
> Is posting to usenet unpatriotic?
>
> Is masturbation unpatriotic?
>
> Who cares.
>
> > In my own mind its a complicated
> > question that can effect US national security (the part where we in
> > the USA are dependent upon foreign oil).
>
> It's a lot more complicated than that. A lot.
>
> > It was a topic that was sort
> > of covered in the last issue of national geographic so I posted
> > another rant on why I think in general SUVs suck.
>
> Everything sucks for *somebody*.
>
> I happen to be in agreement. SUVs have a lot of suckage,
> but definitely not, in particular, because they are "unpatriotic".
>
>
> > http://www.phaster.com/road_trips/ar...patriotic.html
> >
> >
> > I just filled up my land cruiser and it took $100+, oh well its my toy
> > and its the only vehicle that can accomplish what I want it to do, so
> > I don't mind paying for the priviliage of driving the darn thing, but
> > with gas prices all over the news and oil prices now just dropping are
> > people going to ignore the recient gas price spike??????
>
>
> The patriotic folks out there have fought and died for
> exactly the freedom to drive an SUV -- suckage or not.

I wan't around around druning ww II, but I have read that in otder to
help the war effort people at home did their share by conservation.

their sacrifice helped divert resources to help the militray - just
think if people then had the same attitude now, what would happen if
people back then said hey I want to drive my SUV and use excess fuel
just so I could haul my fat butt around town instead of conserving gas
for the war effort?????

isn't being patriotic wanting what is best for the national interests,
if gas is a scarce resource that is foreign produced they why drive
something that is not really necessary?

I think it was president kennedy who said, "ask not what your country
can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

by driving an suv that might not be the most efficent vehicle for the
job (and makes this country more at the mercy of OPEC), then that is
what I am trying to say is is unpatriotic.....

masturbation on the other hand (get the pun) is neither unpatriotic or
patriotic because it does not depend upon the resources of a foreign
country.....

I've got to go now and visit the local titty bar and get a lap dance -
that my friend is being patriotic (blowing a wad locally).






"Sgt. Sausage" > wrote in message >...
> "ben" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Don't know know if the question has been asked before, but humor me
> > for a bit and share your thoughts on gas prices
>
> Which thoughts exactly?
>
> Relative to the world, I think we're far to low on
> gas prices.
>
> Relative to past domestic prices, taking into
> consideration inflation, I still think we're too low.
>
> On the other hand, in general, I think they're too
> high -- but only because I'm a consumer seeking
> to reduce my expenses. I've no idea what the "ideal"
> price of a gallon is in the U.S, but I'd like to think it's
> a helluva lot lower than we're paying now and I'd like
> to think we actually have a chance of reducing the
> current prices to that "ideal" price.
>
> > and if ya think
> > driving an SUV is unpatriotic?
>
> Dumb question.
>
> Is drinking coffee unpatriotic?
>
> Is posting to usenet unpatriotic?
>
> Is masturbation unpatriotic?
>
> Who cares.
>
> > In my own mind its a complicated
> > question that can effect US national security (the part where we in
> > the USA are dependent upon foreign oil).
>
> It's a lot more complicated than that. A lot.
>
> > It was a topic that was sort
> > of covered in the last issue of national geographic so I posted
> > another rant on why I think in general SUVs suck.
>
> Everything sucks for *somebody*.
>
> I happen to be in agreement. SUVs have a lot of suckage,
> but definitely not, in particular, because they are "unpatriotic".
>
>
> > http://www.phaster.com/road_trips/ar...patriotic.html
> >
> >
> > I just filled up my land cruiser and it took $100+, oh well its my toy
> > and its the only vehicle that can accomplish what I want it to do, so
> > I don't mind paying for the priviliage of driving the darn thing, but
> > with gas prices all over the news and oil prices now just dropping are
> > people going to ignore the recient gas price spike??????
>
>
> The patriotic folks out there have fought and died for
> exactly the freedom to drive an SUV -- suckage or not.

hate to tell ya but SUVs are different than minivans and station
wagons because they are considered trucks....

a truck by def of the federal gov. does not have too meet the same gas
and safety standards as a passanger car

"being classified as a light truck has its advantages. Trucks must
post a CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) of 20.7 miles per gallon
(with a very modest boost to 22.2 mpg by 2007), while that figure is
27.5 mpg for passenger cars; and until now light trucks have been
given breaks on tighter new air pollution regulations, although they
will soon be held to the same emissions standards as cars."

http://www.thecarconnection.com/inde...1&article=6769

(which is why auto makers like classifying SUVs as trucks).....

the bottome line in a capitalist culture is all about $$$$$$$$$



xenman > wrote in message >. ..
> On 9 Jun 2004 19:39:58 -0700, (ben) wrote:
>
> >Don't know know if the question has been asked before, but humor me
> >for a bit and share your thoughts on gas prices and if ya think
> >driving an SUV is unpatriotic? In my own mind its a complicated
> >question that can effect US national security (the part where we in
> >the USA are dependent upon foreign oil). It was a topic that was sort
> >of covered in the last issue of national geographic so I posted
> >another rant on why I think in general SUVs suck.
> >
>
> SUV's are really no different that minivans and station wagons. On
> average they have more cargo carrying capability than sedans and
> as a result they consume more fuel. Some SUV are two wheel drive
> and some minivans and stations wagons are 4WD.
>
> So why does the news media continue to attack SUVs for poor
> fuel economy but ignore minivans and station wagons? Are they
> still going to attack them later this year when they start to have
> gasoline/electric hybrid engines?