Auto Lighting Enthusiasts...

Mr. Griffey:

<snip URL for OP's own auction -- spamming isn't classy>

Your auction warns against being "fooled" by flashers that "claim to be
electronic, they use relays or moving contacts that can pit and burn".
That's more than a little disingenuous. Theoretically, sure, turn signal
flashers _can_ burn. So can a tube of Colgate toothpaste. But in the real
world, in both cases, they don't. Electronic flashers as described below
can be pulled out of high-miles wrecking yard vehicles and virtually
always continue to function perfectly for years and years and years.

A quickie websearch shows us this is your own design. Fine, but you ought
to be aware that anyone can walk into any auto parts store and buy an
electronic flasher that:

-Is much more compact than yours
(1.25" dia. x 1.25" tall vs. 2.5" x 2.5" x 1").

-Is compatible with fuseblock mount location (yours is not).

-Plugs directly into the vehicle's flasher socket (yours does not).

-Fits directly into the vehicle's flasher clip (yours does not).

-Needs no extra wire added for 2-prong applications (yours does).

-Has an extra-loud click.

-Is adjustable.

-Costs 1/3 what you're asking in your opening bid, 1/4 what you're asking
on your website.

-Is not a needlessly-complex solution to a problem that's been solved for
a very long time.

-Doesn't have a "self diagnostic on startup" because this is unnecessary.

Now, despite what it might sound like, I'm not really trying to slam you.
It's just that what you've done here is kinda...odd. Maybe you did it as
recreational doglick engineering (because you can), and that's cool.
I've engaged in plenty of recreational doglick engineering myself. But
there are so many other automotive lighting circuits that need designing
(or redesigning) more than the turn signal wheel needs reinventing...

DS

So I guess this means you're not interested... LOL

You're right... this product is not for everyone. It sells to those who
have an eye for technology, and others who plan to move to LED
lighting.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com



Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> Mr. Griffey:
>
> <snip URL for OP's own auction -- spamming isn't classy>
>
> Your auction warns against being "fooled" by flashers that "claim to
be
> electronic, they use relays or moving contacts that can pit and
burn".
> That's more than a little disingenuous. Theoretically, sure, turn
signal
> flashers _can_ burn. So can a tube of Colgate toothpaste. But in the
real
> world, in both cases, they don't. Electronic flashers as described
below
> can be pulled out of high-miles wrecking yard vehicles and virtually
> always continue to function perfectly for years and years and years.
>
> A quickie websearch shows us this is your own design. Fine, but you
ought
> to be aware that anyone can walk into any auto parts store and buy an
> electronic flasher that:
>
> -Is much more compact than yours
> (1.25" dia. x 1.25" tall vs. 2.5" x 2.5" x 1").
>
> -Is compatible with fuseblock mount location (yours is not).
>
> -Plugs directly into the vehicle's flasher socket (yours does not).
>
> -Fits directly into the vehicle's flasher clip (yours does not).
>
> -Needs no extra wire added for 2-prong applications (yours does).
>
> -Has an extra-loud click.
>
> -Is adjustable.
>
> -Costs 1/3 what you're asking in your opening bid, 1/4 what you're
asking
> on your website.
>
> -Is not a needlessly-complex solution to a problem that's been solved
for
> a very long time.
>
> -Doesn't have a "self diagnostic on startup" because this is
unnecessary.
>
> Now, despite what it might sound like, I'm not really trying to slam
you.
> It's just that what you've done here is kinda...odd. Maybe you did it
as
> recreational doglick engineering (because you can), and that's cool.
> I've engaged in plenty of recreational doglick engineering myself.
But
> there are so many other automotive lighting circuits that need
designing
> (or redesigning) more than the turn signal wheel needs reinventing...
>
> DS

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Professor wrote:

> You're right... this product is not for everyone. It sells to those who
> have an eye for technology, and others who plan to move to LED lighting.

Technology for its own sake isn't my cuppa tea, but certainly there are
lots of people who'll buy stuff _because_ of its technology.


> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> > Mr. Griffey:
> >
> > <snip URL for OP's own auction -- spamming isn't classy>
> >
> > Your auction warns against being "fooled" by flashers that "claim to
> be
> > electronic, they use relays or moving contacts that can pit and
> burn".
> > That's more than a little disingenuous. Theoretically, sure, turn
> signal
> > flashers _can_ burn. So can a tube of Colgate toothpaste. But in the
> real
> > world, in both cases, they don't. Electronic flashers as described
> below
> > can be pulled out of high-miles wrecking yard vehicles and virtually
> > always continue to function perfectly for years and years and years.
> >
> > A quickie websearch shows us this is your own design. Fine, but you
> ought
> > to be aware that anyone can walk into any auto parts store and buy an
> > electronic flasher that:
> >
> > -Is much more compact than yours
> > (1.25" dia. x 1.25" tall vs. 2.5" x 2.5" x 1").
> >
> > -Is compatible with fuseblock mount location (yours is not).
> >
> > -Plugs directly into the vehicle's flasher socket (yours does not).
> >
> > -Fits directly into the vehicle's flasher clip (yours does not).
> >
> > -Needs no extra wire added for 2-prong applications (yours does).
> >
> > -Has an extra-loud click.
> >
> > -Is adjustable.
> >
> > -Costs 1/3 what you're asking in your opening bid, 1/4 what you're
> asking
> > on your website.
> >
> > -Is not a needlessly-complex solution to a problem that's been solved
> for
> > a very long time.
> >
> > -Doesn't have a "self diagnostic on startup" because this is
> unnecessary.
> >
> > Now, despite what it might sound like, I'm not really trying to slam
> you.
> > It's just that what you've done here is kinda...odd. Maybe you did it
> as
> > recreational doglick engineering (because you can), and that's cool.
> > I've engaged in plenty of recreational doglick engineering myself.
> But
> > there are so many other automotive lighting circuits that need
> designing
> > (or redesigning) more than the turn signal wheel needs reinventing...
> >
> > DS
>
>