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poll: additives?
I believe in using major name products, their products will have
what is necessary to keep stock injectors, the combustion chamber and crankcase ventilation systems clean, my preference are Chevron supreme gasoline, and Pennzoil multigrade. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Brian wrote: > > I'm curious what y'all think of the various additives to fuel, motor > oil, coolant, etc. Anybody use something they found was good? Bad? I > know many of them are useless. Let's hear about all of 'em. > > B > > -- > Brian Heller > > It is easier to tame wild beasts > than to conquer the human mind. |
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I believe in using major name products, their products will have
what is necessary to keep stock injectors, the combustion chamber and crankcase ventilation systems clean, my preference are Chevron supreme gasoline, and Pennzoil multigrade. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Brian wrote: > > I'm curious what y'all think of the various additives to fuel, motor > oil, coolant, etc. Anybody use something they found was good? Bad? I > know many of them are useless. Let's hear about all of 'em. > > B > > -- > Brian Heller > > It is easier to tame wild beasts > than to conquer the human mind. |
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chew on this a while.
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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chew on this a while.
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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Interesting, reminds me Chevron also uses platinum, nicknamed white
gold for good reason. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Paul Calman wrote: > > chew on this a while. > http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html > > -- > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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Interesting, reminds me Chevron also uses platinum, nicknamed white
gold for good reason. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Paul Calman wrote: > > chew on this a while. > http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html > > -- > Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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That's really an eye-opener! I've got 2 questions though: what about
Valvoline Max Life (breaks the rule stated in the article that no oil companies do additives) Could there be something to it? Also, what about trick-shift for the transmission? Is it really any better? Thanks, Matt "Paul Calman" > wrote in message >... > chew on this a while. > http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html |
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That's really an eye-opener! I've got 2 questions though: what about
Valvoline Max Life (breaks the rule stated in the article that no oil companies do additives) Could there be something to it? Also, what about trick-shift for the transmission? Is it really any better? Thanks, Matt "Paul Calman" > wrote in message >... > chew on this a while. > http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-additives.html |
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The report was written in 92, max-life is more recent.
As to "restore", contains ground up rings and bearings that magically go where needed? It probably would as least raise oil pressure as the dense metals are harder to pump, and would tend to restrict flow in small spaces. All I know is that if an engine is messed up to the point where you may consider an additive as a repair, it's time for a rebuild. There are a lot of other discussions about oil for motorcycles http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm (written in 94), the claim that there is more shearing in the transmission is somewhat valid, but the solution of more zinc isn't effective because of federal environmental limits, so they can't put in enough to make a difference, but "motorcycle oil" is far more expensive anyway. Oils with the "energy conserving" rating are friction modified, bad for wet clutches. My 76 Honda goldwing is a great test bed for oils, it has well over 100K miles, has 3 internal chains, transmission, clutch, and a finicky starter over-riding clutch all in the same pool of oil. I can tell by the sounds it makes that it needs an oil change. It gets quieter progressively with this procession of oils I have run, Quaker, Valvoline, Delo, Kendall, all in 20-50 grade. There is a huge difference in sound from Quaker to Kendall. I have gone backwards to verify, and the sound changes are consistant. I did once manage to get a case of Swepco 306, http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/oil.htm , which I think may be the best out there (used to use it when I worked full-time as a Benz Tech), but poor marketing and high prices http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/sh...swepco_pg5.htm ,keep it obscured and hard to find. I actually measured an increase of 2 mpg after the change. Their gear lube will work miracles with noisy BMW transmissions and diffs. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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The report was written in 92, max-life is more recent.
As to "restore", contains ground up rings and bearings that magically go where needed? It probably would as least raise oil pressure as the dense metals are harder to pump, and would tend to restrict flow in small spaces. All I know is that if an engine is messed up to the point where you may consider an additive as a repair, it's time for a rebuild. There are a lot of other discussions about oil for motorcycles http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm (written in 94), the claim that there is more shearing in the transmission is somewhat valid, but the solution of more zinc isn't effective because of federal environmental limits, so they can't put in enough to make a difference, but "motorcycle oil" is far more expensive anyway. Oils with the "energy conserving" rating are friction modified, bad for wet clutches. My 76 Honda goldwing is a great test bed for oils, it has well over 100K miles, has 3 internal chains, transmission, clutch, and a finicky starter over-riding clutch all in the same pool of oil. I can tell by the sounds it makes that it needs an oil change. It gets quieter progressively with this procession of oils I have run, Quaker, Valvoline, Delo, Kendall, all in 20-50 grade. There is a huge difference in sound from Quaker to Kendall. I have gone backwards to verify, and the sound changes are consistant. I did once manage to get a case of Swepco 306, http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/oil.htm , which I think may be the best out there (used to use it when I worked full-time as a Benz Tech), but poor marketing and high prices http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/sh...swepco_pg5.htm ,keep it obscured and hard to find. I actually measured an increase of 2 mpg after the change. Their gear lube will work miracles with noisy BMW transmissions and diffs. -- Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
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