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Chargers to star in NASCAR
I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD
with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. I think the federales should make NASCAR change their name to NAMCAR, for 'modified' car. |
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I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD
with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. I think the federales should make NASCAR change their name to NAMCAR, for 'modified' car. |
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<< I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD with
transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels >> ____Reply Separator_____ Or the "Stock" Ford Taurus is a two-door coupe! |
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<< I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD with
transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels >> ____Reply Separator_____ Or the "Stock" Ford Taurus is a two-door coupe! |
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I really thought when GM stopped making rear drive V-8 cars, they should
have been forced to race what they manufactured. But, nobody cares what I think, and NASCAR thinks the sport is better served by parity, deserved or not. But it has certainly reached an embarrassing level of non-stock-car-ness. "TOM KAN PA" > wrote in message ... > << I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD with > transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted > fore and aft and driving the rear wheels >> > ____Reply Separator_____ > Or the "Stock" Ford Taurus is a two-door coupe! > > > > > |
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I really thought when GM stopped making rear drive V-8 cars, they should
have been forced to race what they manufactured. But, nobody cares what I think, and NASCAR thinks the sport is better served by parity, deserved or not. But it has certainly reached an embarrassing level of non-stock-car-ness. "TOM KAN PA" > wrote in message ... > << I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD with > transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a front V8 mounted > fore and aft and driving the rear wheels >> > ____Reply Separator_____ > Or the "Stock" Ford Taurus is a two-door coupe! > > > > > |
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Ted Azito wrote:
> I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD > with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a > front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA > Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. > I don't understand the visceral urge to bitch about NASCAR or any other racing series that doesn't catch your fancy. Formula 1 isn't anymore "honest." IRL isn't anymore "honest." CART isn't anymore "honest." All of them are just spec series where all the cars have to comform to a given set of rules. I happen to LIKE it when the rules call for a 5.7 liter naturally-aspirated v8. True, NASCAR hasn't been "stock" since 1973, but then there hasn't been a race-worthy "stock" sedan built since the Buick Grand National was cancelled anyway. Racing front-drive v6 cars would be about as exciting as watching ice melt. |
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Ted Azito wrote:
> I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD > with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a > front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA > Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. > I don't understand the visceral urge to bitch about NASCAR or any other racing series that doesn't catch your fancy. Formula 1 isn't anymore "honest." IRL isn't anymore "honest." CART isn't anymore "honest." All of them are just spec series where all the cars have to comform to a given set of rules. I happen to LIKE it when the rules call for a 5.7 liter naturally-aspirated v8. True, NASCAR hasn't been "stock" since 1973, but then there hasn't been a race-worthy "stock" sedan built since the Buick Grand National was cancelled anyway. Racing front-drive v6 cars would be about as exciting as watching ice melt. |
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Steve > wrote in message >...
> Ted Azito wrote: > > > I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD > > with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a > > front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA > > Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. > > > > I don't understand the visceral urge to bitch about NASCAR or any other > racing series that doesn't catch your fancy. Formula 1 isn't anymore > "honest." IRL isn't anymore "honest." CART isn't anymore "honest." All > of them are just spec series where all the cars have to comform to a > given set of rules. I happen to LIKE it when the rules call for a 5.7 > liter naturally-aspirated v8. True, NASCAR hasn't been "stock" since > 1973, but then there hasn't been a race-worthy "stock" sedan built since > the Buick Grand National was cancelled anyway. Racing front-drive v6 > cars would be about as exciting as watching ice melt. lets see, isn't it about the driver/team given a platform to conform/race with, in any racing series? oh and if you want excitement, just go find the local street racing scene and watch kids DIE on any given weekend as happened to a girl in the dallas/ft.worth metroplex a couple of days ago 2 days before her sweet sixteenth b'day!?! our greatgrandparents did it{streetrace} and our greatgrandkids will been doing this unless the consequences become greater than thrill of the game."honesty" is in the eye of the OBSERVER. there are varying degrees of pushing the envelope in the various racing series or as paul tracy put it nascar is to WWF as cart is to proffessional tennis since there is more cheating in nascar. the problem i have with the monopoly we call NASCAR NATION{the france family} is that this generation is all about the bizness and nothing about the me and you the FANS WHO MADE THE SPORT WHAT IT IS TODAY. i was a fan of dale sr. who was the fans advocate for the sport, and who i bet would be kickin' his sons tail all the way to suzuka and leavin' his carcass in the land of the risin' sun to be a corparate hack for the likes of toyota, pioneer, and the like. trust me, when brian france can export nascar world wide which he will if given the oppty. then you'll see the end of all other international racing series save off-road because it all goes back to the bizness and screw the fans as long as the RATINGS STAY UP OR GROW!!!!!!!!!! don't understand why i bitch about nascar nation? then you obviously don't remember why the snowball derby or any other final season LOCAL race was so important to the local nascar fans.i didn't mean for this to become a rant about a sports monopoly{see the ferko suit against NASCAR;{, BUT UNTIL WE GET THE LAWYERS INVOLVED TO BREAK IT LIKE CONGRESS DID TO mlb WE'LL HAVE TO ACCEPT WHAT'S FED TO US THE FANS not the stockholders. dw, aka jaws is probably the smartest team owner in the sport today and he breaks the mold of the sterotypical new car lot owner who saves mony or strokes his ego by hawking his own bizness. because he's good at it and sees the writing on the wall for the international nascar nation fan. nobody likes change but he embraces it and knows how to prosper within the system. a loud enough, or irritating enough voice will get results if you are persistant enough and start costing too many fat cat's too much money cause it all goes back to the bizness of NASCAR NATION. YESSIR MR. FRANCE I SHORE HOPE YOU IS READIN THIS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR SPORT NOT yours;} that's my story and i'm stickin' to it |
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Steve > wrote in message >...
> Ted Azito wrote: > > > I refuse to take NASCAR seriously when the street cars are all FWD > > with transverse four cylinder engines and the ""stock"" car has a > > front V8 mounted fore and aft and driving the rear wheels. SCCA > > Showroom Stock is more honest, and actually better racing action. > > > > I don't understand the visceral urge to bitch about NASCAR or any other > racing series that doesn't catch your fancy. Formula 1 isn't anymore > "honest." IRL isn't anymore "honest." CART isn't anymore "honest." All > of them are just spec series where all the cars have to comform to a > given set of rules. I happen to LIKE it when the rules call for a 5.7 > liter naturally-aspirated v8. True, NASCAR hasn't been "stock" since > 1973, but then there hasn't been a race-worthy "stock" sedan built since > the Buick Grand National was cancelled anyway. Racing front-drive v6 > cars would be about as exciting as watching ice melt. lets see, isn't it about the driver/team given a platform to conform/race with, in any racing series? oh and if you want excitement, just go find the local street racing scene and watch kids DIE on any given weekend as happened to a girl in the dallas/ft.worth metroplex a couple of days ago 2 days before her sweet sixteenth b'day!?! our greatgrandparents did it{streetrace} and our greatgrandkids will been doing this unless the consequences become greater than thrill of the game."honesty" is in the eye of the OBSERVER. there are varying degrees of pushing the envelope in the various racing series or as paul tracy put it nascar is to WWF as cart is to proffessional tennis since there is more cheating in nascar. the problem i have with the monopoly we call NASCAR NATION{the france family} is that this generation is all about the bizness and nothing about the me and you the FANS WHO MADE THE SPORT WHAT IT IS TODAY. i was a fan of dale sr. who was the fans advocate for the sport, and who i bet would be kickin' his sons tail all the way to suzuka and leavin' his carcass in the land of the risin' sun to be a corparate hack for the likes of toyota, pioneer, and the like. trust me, when brian france can export nascar world wide which he will if given the oppty. then you'll see the end of all other international racing series save off-road because it all goes back to the bizness and screw the fans as long as the RATINGS STAY UP OR GROW!!!!!!!!!! don't understand why i bitch about nascar nation? then you obviously don't remember why the snowball derby or any other final season LOCAL race was so important to the local nascar fans.i didn't mean for this to become a rant about a sports monopoly{see the ferko suit against NASCAR;{, BUT UNTIL WE GET THE LAWYERS INVOLVED TO BREAK IT LIKE CONGRESS DID TO mlb WE'LL HAVE TO ACCEPT WHAT'S FED TO US THE FANS not the stockholders. dw, aka jaws is probably the smartest team owner in the sport today and he breaks the mold of the sterotypical new car lot owner who saves mony or strokes his ego by hawking his own bizness. because he's good at it and sees the writing on the wall for the international nascar nation fan. nobody likes change but he embraces it and knows how to prosper within the system. a loud enough, or irritating enough voice will get results if you are persistant enough and start costing too many fat cat's too much money cause it all goes back to the bizness of NASCAR NATION. YESSIR MR. FRANCE I SHORE HOPE YOU IS READIN THIS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR SPORT NOT yours;} that's my story and i'm stickin' to it |
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