Is there a reliablity problem with the Hemi?

You can throw European cars in there as well since none made their recent
list.

Ken

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"Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
from thirty-third to Buffalo.
From Broadway bright the tubes run right
Into the Road of Anthracite"
Erie - Lackawanna



"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> Joe wrote:
>> General Schvantzkoph > wrote in
>> news
>>>This month's Consumer Reports says that the V8 in the 300C is very
>>>unreliable. I haven't had a single problem of any sort with my 300C
>>>but I only have 8000 miles on it so it's a little early to tell. The
>>>Hemi is a cast iron engine and it's working at a much smaller
>>>percentage of it's maximum power then a small engine so I would have
>>>thought it would be very reliable. Is there really a reliability issue
>>>or is Consumer Reports wrong?
>>
>>
>> Consumer Reports: New = Untested = Unreliable
>
> No, Consumer Reports: American = Unreliable
>

I believe they rather discuss Politics ;-)

The Avalon, while nice, has not made the mark in reliability according to
those experts at CR.

Ken

--
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from thirty-third to Buffalo.
From Broadway bright the tubes run right
Into the Road of Anthracite"
Erie - Lackawanna



"Art" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Having owned an Avalon and a 300M, I am always looking at Toyota and
> Chrysler newsgroups. Judging by the number of questions here and the
> number of questions on the Toyota groups, it sure looks like Chryslers
> have a lot more problems, or Toyota owners don't know how to use a
> computer.
>
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Joe wrote:
>>> General Schvantzkoph > wrote in
>>> news >>>>This month's Consumer Reports says that the V8 in the 300C is very
>>>>unreliable. I haven't had a single problem of any sort with my 300C
>>>>but I only have 8000 miles on it so it's a little early to tell. The
>>>>Hemi is a cast iron engine and it's working at a much smaller
>>>>percentage of it's maximum power then a small engine so I would have
>>>>thought it would be very reliable. Is there really a reliability issue
>>>>or is Consumer Reports wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>> Consumer Reports: New = Untested = Unreliable
>>
>> No, Consumer Reports: American = Unreliable
>>
>
>

latte?

At the Lexus dealers only ;-)

Ken


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"Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
from thirty-third to Buffalo.
From Broadway bright the tubes run right
Into the Road of Anthracite"
Erie - Lackawanna



"MoPar Man" > wrote in message
...
> Art wrote:
>
>> it sure looks like Chryslers have a lot more problems, or
>> Toyota owners don't know how to use a computer.
>
> Or maybe Toyota owners don't even bother themselves with talking about
> technical problems with their cars on web-forums/usenet, but instead
> they simply shlep themselves over to their dealer and have a latte
> while their car gets fixed.

My Toyota dealer built himself a showcase building and has free bottled
water and pastries for everyone coming thru for service and sales.



"NJ Vike" > wrote in message
. net...
> latte?
>
> At the Lexus dealers only ;-)
>
> Ken
>
>
> --
> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
> from thirty-third to Buffalo.
> From Broadway bright the tubes run right
> Into the Road of Anthracite"
> Erie - Lackawanna
>
>
>
> "MoPar Man" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Art wrote:
>>
>>> it sure looks like Chryslers have a lot more problems, or
>>> Toyota owners don't know how to use a computer.
>>
>> Or maybe Toyota owners don't even bother themselves with talking about
>> technical problems with their cars on web-forums/usenet, but instead
>> they simply shlep themselves over to their dealer and have a latte
>> while their car gets fixed.
>
>

First year is average in each new model, second year was better than
average. When I filled out the Consumer Reports surveys on the Avalon I
destroyed it. Notwithstanding, most people must have been positive about
it.


"NJ Vike" > wrote in message
k.net...
>I believe they rather discuss Politics ;-)
>
> The Avalon, while nice, has not made the mark in reliability according to
> those experts at CR.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> "Now Phoebe Snow direct can go
> from thirty-third to Buffalo.
> From Broadway bright the tubes run right
> Into the Road of Anthracite"
> Erie - Lackawanna
>
>
>
> "Art" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>> Having owned an Avalon and a 300M, I am always looking at Toyota and
>> Chrysler newsgroups. Judging by the number of questions here and the
>> number of questions on the Toyota groups, it sure looks like Chryslers
>> have a lot more problems, or Toyota owners don't know how to use a
>> computer.
>>
>>
>> "Steve" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> General Schvantzkoph > wrote in
>>>> news >>>>>This month's Consumer Reports says that the V8 in the 300C is very
>>>>>unreliable. I haven't had a single problem of any sort with my 300C
>>>>>but I only have 8000 miles on it so it's a little early to tell. The
>>>>>Hemi is a cast iron engine and it's working at a much smaller
>>>>>percentage of it's maximum power then a small engine so I would have
>>>>>thought it would be very reliable. Is there really a reliability issue
>>>>>or is Consumer Reports wrong?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Consumer Reports: New = Untested = Unreliable
>>>
>>> No, Consumer Reports: American = Unreliable
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:53:59 +0000, Art wrote:

> Having owned an Avalon and a 300M, I am always looking at Toyota and
> Chrysler newsgroups. Judging by the number of questions here and the number
> of questions on the Toyota groups, it sure looks like Chryslers have a lot
> more problems, or Toyota owners don't know how to use a computer.

<AHEM>

*FWAP*

>
>
> "Steve" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Joe wrote:
>>> General Schvantzkoph > wrote in
>>> news >>>>This month's Consumer Reports says that the V8 in the 300C is very
>>>>unreliable. I haven't had a single problem of any sort with my 300C
>>>>but I only have 8000 miles on it so it's a little early to tell. The
>>>>Hemi is a cast iron engine and it's working at a much smaller
>>>>percentage of it's maximum power then a small engine so I would have
>>>>thought it would be very reliable. Is there really a reliability issue
>>>>or is Consumer Reports wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>> Consumer Reports: New = Untested = Unreliable
>>
>> No, Consumer Reports: American = Unreliable
>>

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:53:19 +0000, NJ Vike wrote:

> I believe they rather discuss Politics ;-)
>
> The Avalon, while nice, has not made the mark in reliability according to
> those experts at CR.
>
> Ken

Um, it was completely designed and built in the US.

It was the first Toyota made that way.

The MR2 was desined in the US (all versions) but made in Japan (all
versions).

US made Camrys have more problems than Japanese ones.

Not trying to knock anybody, just my observations (I used to work at a
Toyota dealer. The Jap made cars would mainly come in for maintenance, the
US made cars were coming in more for repairs...)

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:54:39 -0500, MoPar Man wrote:

> Art wrote:
>
>> it sure looks like Chryslers have a lot more problems, or
>> Toyota owners don't know how to use a computer.
>
> Or maybe Toyota owners don't even bother themselves with talking about
> technical problems with their cars on web-forums/usenet, but instead
> they simply shlep themselves over to their dealer and have a latte
> while their car gets fixed.

<AHEM>

Well, I try. there are a few knowledgable people there, but the few that
REALLY knew their stuff have gone. A couple check in once in a while, but
most have left.


--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

Hachiroku wrote:
> ...The Jap made cars would mainly come in for maintenance, the
> US made cars were coming in more for repairs...)

Well yeah! The Japs said to themselves "Hey - we've got some design
problems on this one - we better send it over to the U.S. to be built so
they will get the blame for 'poor build quality'".

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

He was also talking about Camry's..... some of which were made in the US and
some were made in Japan. The US ones required more repairs in his
experience. Consumer Reports has disputed this in the past.


"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> Hachiroku wrote:
>> ...The Jap made cars would mainly come in for maintenance, the
>> US made cars were coming in more for repairs...)
>
> Well yeah! The Japs said to themselves "Hey - we've got some design
> problems on this one - we better send it over to the U.S. to be built so
> they will get the blame for 'poor build quality'".
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')