1996 Explorer XLT AWD headlight replacement

My 'jerry-rigged solution' lasted until this evening. I had NO headlights
trying to drive home this evening from Nashville. Luckily had enough
illumination from my fogs and driving lights to make the 55 mi trip.

During the trip, I heard what sounded like arcing coming from the
multi-function switch. I also had to push the turn signal stalk a certain
way for the signal lights to work. This leads me to believe that the MFS is
the culprit...for now.

Plan to work on it once daylight is available. Any other suggestions would
be welcome.

Vito

"johanb" > wrote in message
...
> Look in your mailbox, hope that helps
>
>
> "Vito" > wrote in message
> ...
>> OK
>> I tested for continuity between Fuse 4 (wht/lt grn) and the left headlamp
>> socket by taking the back off the fusebox to get directly at the wire.
> Got
>> NO CONTINUITY.
>>
>> This leads me to believe there is a break in that wire somewhere between
> the
>> fusebox and the lamp socket.
>>
>> So I'll now try a jumper wire from the fusebox to the portion of
> accessible
>> wire that I know has continuity...be back shortly.
>>
>> Vito
>>
>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Well...the jiggling didn't do anything...still no current to the
>> > lowbeam
>> > wire.
>> >
>> > Gonna start at the switch and work towards the headlight. There's
>> > gotta
>> > be a reason why there's no current
>> >
>> >
>> > "Vito" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> Voltage is 10.88 with engine off to L highbeam and R H/Lbeams.
>> >>
>> >> I'll try try the tilt wheel and switch wiggling..
>> >>
>> >> Vito
>> >>
>> >> "johanb" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>> Howbout checking voltage.......
>> >>>
>> >>> Switch your lite switch on/off rapidly a couple of times
>> >>>
>> >>> Do the same with high/low beam and see if that will clean the
>> >>> contacts
>> >>> inside switch
>> >>>
>> >>> Also if you have adjustable steering wheel, turn lites on and adjust
>> >>> steering wheel high/low, some times a wire gets pushed outta the
>> >>> multi
>> >>> function switch and will make contact again when adjusting it
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>> >>> ...
>> >>>> I may have the same problem of sorts.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My 96 EB AWD also has the left lowbeam out. The highbeam is fine.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> replaced the bulb and got nada.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Checked continuity on old bulb and it was fine. Continuity on new
> bulb
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> fine. Fuses are fine, but getting no current to lowbeam wire
>> >>>> (white/grn
>> >>>> stripe)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any Ideas?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Vito
>> >>>>
>> >>>> <Alan > wrote in message
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> > Remove the battery. Don't try without it gone!!!
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I did. For an hour or more.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Finally removed the battery and had it replaced in about 4
>> >>>> > minutes!
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:56:16 GMT, "Ed Mann"
>> >>>> > >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>You need a 9007 bulb, available at any auto store or Wal-Mart.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>It may be easier to replace if you remove the battery. I've done
> it
>> >>>> >>without, but it wasn't easy.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>"Bob" > wrote in message
>> >>>> ...
>> >>>> >>> 1996 Explorer XLT AWD - 147,000 miles
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> My driver's side headlight (low beam only) is not working. What
>> >>>> >>> does
>> >>>> >>> it take to replace it? Is it a sealed beam or can I just
>> >>>> >>> replace
>> >>>> >>> the
>> >>>> >>> bulb? If just a bulb, will my local NAPA or Kragen's store
>> >>>> >>> probably
>> >>>> >>> carry it? In any case, any advice on it's removal and
> replacement?
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>>> >>> Bob
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Alan Moorman
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > The only reason some people get lost in thought
>> >>>> > is because it's unfamiliar territory.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Paul Fix
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > =================================
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

It may, but the bulbs were functional.

"Ed Mann" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Don't the EB's have a lamp out module that goes bad and causes this
> problem?
>
> "Vito" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I may have the same problem of sorts.
>>
>> My 96 EB AWD also has the left lowbeam out. The highbeam is fine. I
>> replaced the bulb and got nada.
>>
>> Checked continuity on old bulb and it was fine. Continuity on new bulb
>> is
>> fine. Fuses are fine, but getting no current to lowbeam wire (white/grn
>> stripe)
>>
>> Any Ideas?
>>
>> Vito
>>
>> <Alan > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Remove the battery. Don't try without it gone!!!
>> >
>> > I did. For an hour or more.
>> >
>> > Finally removed the battery and had it replaced in about 4 minutes!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:56:16 GMT, "Ed Mann" >
> wrote:
>> >
>> >>You need a 9007 bulb, available at any auto store or Wal-Mart.
>> >>
>> >>It may be easier to replace if you remove the battery. I've done it
>> >>without, but it wasn't easy.
>> >>
>> >>"Bob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> 1996 Explorer XLT AWD - 147,000 miles
>> >>>
>> >>> My driver's side headlight (low beam only) is not working. What does
>> >>> it take to replace it? Is it a sealed beam or can I just replace the
>> >>> bulb? If just a bulb, will my local NAPA or Kragen's store probably
>> >>> carry it? In any case, any advice on it's removal and replacement?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> Bob
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Alan Moorman
>> >
>> > The only reason some people get lost in thought
>> > is because it's unfamiliar territory.
>> >
>> > Paul Fix
>> >
>> > =================================
>>
>>
>
>

Well I replaced the MFS and STILL have no lowbeams.

I had inquired as to the price of the GEM while picking up the MFS...the GEM
is $236.00

Last chance for any other ideas before I resort to the dealer to fix this
POS!

"Vito" > wrote in message
...
> My 'jerry-rigged solution' lasted until this evening. I had NO headlights
> trying to drive home this evening from Nashville. Luckily had enough
> illumination from my fogs and driving lights to make the 55 mi trip.
>
> During the trip, I heard what sounded like arcing coming from the
> multi-function switch. I also had to push the turn signal stalk a certain
> way for the signal lights to work. This leads me to believe that the MFS
> is the culprit...for now.
>
> Plan to work on it once daylight is available. Any other suggestions
> would be welcome.
>
> Vito
>
> "johanb" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Look in your mailbox, hope that helps
>>
>>
>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> OK
>>> I tested for continuity between Fuse 4 (wht/lt grn) and the left
>>> headlamp
>>> socket by taking the back off the fusebox to get directly at the wire.
>> Got
>>> NO CONTINUITY.
>>>
>>> This leads me to believe there is a break in that wire somewhere between
>> the
>>> fusebox and the lamp socket.
>>>
>>> So I'll now try a jumper wire from the fusebox to the portion of
>> accessible
>>> wire that I know has continuity...be back shortly.
>>>
>>> Vito
>>>
>>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Well...the jiggling didn't do anything...still no current to the
>>> > lowbeam
>>> > wire.
>>> >
>>> > Gonna start at the switch and work towards the headlight. There's
>>> > gotta
>>> > be a reason why there's no current
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Vito" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >> Voltage is 10.88 with engine off to L highbeam and R H/Lbeams.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll try try the tilt wheel and switch wiggling..
>>> >>
>>> >> Vito
>>> >>
>>> >> "johanb" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >>> Howbout checking voltage.......
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Switch your lite switch on/off rapidly a couple of times
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Do the same with high/low beam and see if that will clean the
>>> >>> contacts
>>> >>> inside switch
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also if you have adjustable steering wheel, turn lites on and adjust
>>> >>> steering wheel high/low, some times a wire gets pushed outta the
>>> >>> multi
>>> >>> function switch and will make contact again when adjusting it
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>>> I may have the same problem of sorts.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> My 96 EB AWD also has the left lowbeam out. The highbeam is fine.
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> replaced the bulb and got nada.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Checked continuity on old bulb and it was fine. Continuity on new
>> bulb
>>> >>>> is
>>> >>>> fine. Fuses are fine, but getting no current to lowbeam wire
>>> >>>> (white/grn
>>> >>>> stripe)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Any Ideas?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Vito
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> <Alan > wrote in message
>>> >>>> ...
>>> >>>> > Remove the battery. Don't try without it gone!!!
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > I did. For an hour or more.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Finally removed the battery and had it replaced in about 4
>>> >>>> > minutes!
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:56:16 GMT, "Ed Mann"
>>> >>>> > >
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >>You need a 9007 bulb, available at any auto store or Wal-Mart.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>It may be easier to replace if you remove the battery. I've done
>> it
>>> >>>> >>without, but it wasn't easy.
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >>"Bob" > wrote in message
>>> >>>> ...
>>> >>>> >>> 1996 Explorer XLT AWD - 147,000 miles
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> My driver's side headlight (low beam only) is not working.
>>> >>>> >>> What
>>> >>>> >>> does
>>> >>>> >>> it take to replace it? Is it a sealed beam or can I just
>>> >>>> >>> replace
>>> >>>> >>> the
>>> >>>> >>> bulb? If just a bulb, will my local NAPA or Kragen's store
>>> >>>> >>> probably
>>> >>>> >>> carry it? In any case, any advice on it's removal and
>> replacement?
>>> >>>> >>>
>>> >>>> >>> Thanks!
>>> >>>> >>> Bob
>>> >>>> >>
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Alan Moorman
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > The only reason some people get lost in thought
>>> >>>> > is because it's unfamiliar territory.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Paul Fix
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > =================================
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Any solutions to the low beam problem? I have a 2002 EB with the same
problem, just happened this AM. I've been told that there is a module for
the lights on these trucks.I'll let you know when I get it fixed today

When I direct wire the lowbeams to the battery, they work.

The highbeams function normally, as well as flash to pass via the MFS.

Going down to the dealer to pick up a headlight switch - after picking the
brain of the service mgr. I'm not gonna pay them $200-300 just to replace a
$30 part.


"Geeno" > wrote in message
lkaboutautos.com...
> Any solutions to the low beam problem? I have a 2002 EB with the same
> problem, just happened this AM. I've been told that there is a module for
> the lights on these trucks.I'll let you know when I get it fixed today
>

VICTORY IS MINE! Turned out to be the Lamp Out Warning Module (located
under and to right of Message Center. There is a TSB about the module going
bad/melting in EB and LTDs with after-market towing package wiring harnesses
attached to vehicle system.

Now the fun part...trying to get the part ASAP.

"Vito" > wrote in message
news
> Decided to test the headlight switch before shelling out cash using the
> ALLDATA testing procedures. The switch tested fine. Gonna try this next
>
> D - Low Beam Headlamps Inoperative
>
>
>
> "Vito" > wrote in message
> ...
>> When I direct wire the lowbeams to the battery, they work.
>>
>> The highbeams function normally, as well as flash to pass via the MFS.
>>
>> Going down to the dealer to pick up a headlight switch - after picking
>> the
>> brain of the service mgr. I'm not gonna pay them $200-300 just to
>> replace a
>> $30 part.
>>
>>
>> "Geeno" > wrote in message
>> lkaboutautos.com...
>>> Any solutions to the low beam problem? I have a 2002 EB with the same
>>> problem, just happened this AM. I've been told that there is a module
>>> for
>>> the lights on these trucks.I'll let you know when I get it fixed today
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Picked up a new Lamp Out Warning Module at Champion Ford in Nashville. Only
took 5 mins to put in and viola`...I now have working headlights.

For those interested in the part number...F77Z-10K910-AA

"Vito" > wrote in message
...
> VICTORY IS MINE! Turned out to be the Lamp Out Warning Module (located
> under and to right of Message Center. There is a TSB about the module
> going bad/melting in EB and LTDs with after-market towing package wiring
> harnesses attached to vehicle system.
>
> Now the fun part...trying to get the part ASAP.
>
> "Vito" > wrote in message
> news
>> Decided to test the headlight switch before shelling out cash using the
>> ALLDATA testing procedures. The switch tested fine. Gonna try this next
>>
>> D - Low Beam Headlamps Inoperative
>>
>>
>>
>> "Vito" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> When I direct wire the lowbeams to the battery, they work.
>>>
>>> The highbeams function normally, as well as flash to pass via the MFS.
>>>
>>> Going down to the dealer to pick up a headlight switch - after picking
>>> the
>>> brain of the service mgr. I'm not gonna pay them $200-300 just to
>>> replace a
>>> $30 part.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Geeno" > wrote in message
>>> lkaboutautos.com...
>>>> Any solutions to the low beam problem? I have a 2002 EB with the same
>>>> problem, just happened this AM. I've been told that there is a module
>>>> for
>>>> the lights on these trucks.I'll let you know when I get it fixed today
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>