Hydraulic VS. Electric winches

OK group, I am looking for EXPERIENCE related opinions on hydraulic and
electric winches. Which type works best. If you have never used one
please don't tell me that type is horrible. I'm looking for one in the
12,000 lb range. Thanks.

wrote:
>
> OK group, I am looking for EXPERIENCE related opinions on hydraulic and
> electric winches. Which type works best. If you have never used one
> please don't tell me that type is horrible. I'm looking for one in the
> 12,000 lb range. Thanks.

You need a running engine for an hydraulic winch to operate.
(Also true for PTO winches which might be an option if you have PTO)
For electric winches you might need a dual battery set-up.
Sorry, you were asking for experience related opinions.
This is technical...
Someone else ?
Kind regards,
Erik-Jan.

If you are a trail leader and the only sucker with a winch so you have
to sit at the top and pull everyone up, then a hydraulic is the way to
go. They can pull all day as long as your engine is running.

If you want one for self extraction and the occasional pulling friends
along than an electric is better because it will still work if your
engine dies in the middle of a water crossing or if you are way off
camber like tilted over on it's side or something where you can't run
the engine.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

wrote:
>
> OK group, I am looking for EXPERIENCE related opinions on hydraulic and
> electric winches. Which type works best. If you have never used one
> please don't tell me that type is horrible. I'm looking for one in the
> 12,000 lb range. Thanks.

> wrote in message
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> OK group, I am looking for EXPERIENCE related opinions on hydraulic and
> electric winches.

i have owned and used both extensively. each has their own advantages and
disadvantages, please see
http://7slotgrille.com/projects/03rubicon/mm/index.html for my reasons why i
went from electric to hydraulic. for serious pulling, hydraulic is the way
to go.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is
this no issue>

Matt

> wrote in message
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> Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is
> this no issue>

ive never known a pump to fail from adding a winch. the energy is there
anyway, the winch just takes advantage of it.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

"Nathan W. Collier" schrieb:

> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is
> > this no issue>
>
> ive never known a pump to fail from adding a winch. the energy is there
> anyway, the winch just takes advantage of it.

Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have almost
no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'.
Real PTO hydraulics have at least 10 to 20l of hydraulic fluid that can
buffer the heat and the tank may act as radiator as well.

Dunno what the military's up to, but they won't work their winches long -
and if they fail, who cares. I suggest to check out military strategies
regarding the effective lifetime in battle when talking of the quality of
military equipment. The seal 'military approved' isn't worth that much if
you know about the details.

Cheers,

Axel

"Axel Hammer" > wrote in message
...
> Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have
> almost
> no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'.

what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs
where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep
to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me
on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and
watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Very good report on the winch you have there ...

Matt

schrieb:

> Very good report on the winch you have there ...
>
> Matt

Very nice.
Anyone tell me why I need a 'Flow Restrictor'? I wouldn't want anything
'restricting' my winch....

Axel