3.3 intermittant start problem

I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van will
crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the ignition
completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't know
what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail was
leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after replacing
the rail, the problem was still there)

Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to take it
in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.

Thanks,
Nick

what yr?

what yr?

Sorry, it's a 1993 3.3 Dodge Grand Caravan.

Nick

"damnnickname" > wrote in message
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> what yr?
>

Sorry, it's a 1993 3.3 Dodge Grand Caravan.

Nick

"damnnickname" > wrote in message
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> what yr?
>

When you had the fuel pump replaced, did you replace the complete fuel pump
module with check valve and all or did you go after market and just get the
pump?
"ncs" > wrote in message ...
> I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
> coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van will
> crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the ignition
> completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't
know
> what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
> summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail was
> leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after
replacing
> the rail, the problem was still there)
>
> Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to take
it
> in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
>

When you had the fuel pump replaced, did you replace the complete fuel pump
module with check valve and all or did you go after market and just get the
pump?
"ncs" > wrote in message ...
> I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
> coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van will
> crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the ignition
> completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't
know
> what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
> summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail was
> leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after
replacing
> the rail, the problem was still there)
>
> Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to take
it
> in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
>

It went out on the way home from vacation this summer in North Carolina.
Had it towed to a dealer and they replaced it along with the fuel filter and
some kit they said I needed that goes along with the pump.


"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
> When you had the fuel pump replaced, did you replace the complete fuel
> pump
> module with check valve and all or did you go after market and just get
> the
> pump?
> "ncs" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
>> coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van will
>> crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the ignition
>> completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't
> know
>> what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
>> summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail
>> was
>> leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after
> replacing
>> the rail, the problem was still there)
>>
>> Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to take
> it
>> in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>>
>
>

It went out on the way home from vacation this summer in North Carolina.
Had it towed to a dealer and they replaced it along with the fuel filter and
some kit they said I needed that goes along with the pump.


"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
> When you had the fuel pump replaced, did you replace the complete fuel
> pump
> module with check valve and all or did you go after market and just get
> the
> pump?
> "ncs" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
>> coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van will
>> crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the ignition
>> completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't
> know
>> what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
>> summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail
>> was
>> leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after
> replacing
>> the rail, the problem was still there)
>>
>> Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to take
> it
>> in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>>
>
>

The kit was a wire harness for the pump since it was an updated part, It
could be an injector leaking down, but if that were the case you may get
hard start when hot also, Does that happen?, and have you connected a fuel
gauge to see if the fuel pressure bleeds off when the key is off
"ncs" > wrote in message ...
> It went out on the way home from vacation this summer in North Carolina.
> Had it towed to a dealer and they replaced it along with the fuel filter
and
> some kit they said I needed that goes along with the pump.
>
>
> "maxpower" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When you had the fuel pump replaced, did you replace the complete fuel
> > pump
> > module with check valve and all or did you go after market and just get
> > the
> > pump?
> > "ncs" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I've replaced the ASD and fuel pump (and ASD) relays and also the
> >> coolant temperature sensor but the problem is still there. The van
will
> >> crank but not start, usually in the morning. I have to turn the
ignition
> >> completely off and then start it again. It usually starts then. Don't
> > know
> >> what else to check. Both the fuel rail and fuel pump were replaced this
> >> summer. Although the problem began before I replaced both. (The rail
> >> was
> >> leaking and I thought this might be causing the problem, but after
> > replacing
> >> the rail, the problem was still there)
> >>
> >> Any other ideas are welcomed. Could it be the ECM ? Might have to
take
> > it
> >> in and get it diagnosed, but was trying to trouble shoot it myself.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>