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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Harry K wrote:
> > The Australian Ford line contains numerous world-class vehicles, > > including a full range of up-to-date RWD passenger cars and utes with > > vastly better performance, economy, ergonomics, emissions and safety > > than anything Ford sells in the rest of the world. Australia gets a > > RWD Falcon with 4-litre inline Six (normally aspirated, turbo or > > supercharged), thoroughly modern in all respects. North America gets > > the Five Hundred, a warmed-over Taurus. There ain't no justice. > Warmed over Taurus?? Warmed-over Taurus. Another piece of Ford garbage with the same ****ty electrical system and same cardboard transaxle they've been foisting off on the North American market for decades. > I don't think it has any Taurus in it (again according to the salesman) Aw, come on. Use your brain just a LITTLE BIT. If you were trying to sell Fords, would you admit to their being any Taurus "engineering" in the car you were trying to sell? |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Harry K wrote:
> > The Australian Ford line contains numerous world-class vehicles, > > including a full range of up-to-date RWD passenger cars and utes with > > vastly better performance, economy, ergonomics, emissions and safety > > than anything Ford sells in the rest of the world. Australia gets a > > RWD Falcon with 4-litre inline Six (normally aspirated, turbo or > > supercharged), thoroughly modern in all respects. North America gets > > the Five Hundred, a warmed-over Taurus. There ain't no justice. > Warmed over Taurus?? Warmed-over Taurus. Another piece of Ford garbage with the same ****ty electrical system and same cardboard transaxle they've been foisting off on the North American market for decades. > I don't think it has any Taurus in it (again according to the salesman) Aw, come on. Use your brain just a LITTLE BIT. If you were trying to sell Fords, would you admit to their being any Taurus "engineering" in the car you were trying to sell? |
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> Engine (3.0L Duratec) is the same as the upgrade engine from the Taurus > lineup. Other than that, not much similar between the cars. They're both Fords. They're both FWD/AWD. You think "built on a Volvo platform" is a *good* thing? Go look at anybody's reliability ratings for Volvos made in the last 9 years -- they're right down there in the toilet with those for Ford's own products. |
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> Engine (3.0L Duratec) is the same as the upgrade engine from the Taurus > lineup. Other than that, not much similar between the cars. They're both Fords. They're both FWD/AWD. You think "built on a Volvo platform" is a *good* thing? Go look at anybody's reliability ratings for Volvos made in the last 9 years -- they're right down there in the toilet with those for Ford's own products. |
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> > http://members.aol.com/peterwendt/usautogw.htm > > Wow, an Spirit was up to a European's standards. The Chrysler Saratoga (as the car was known there) was equipped similarly to the highest-spec North American Spirits in the suspension, steering, brake, durability and luxury equipment departments, and much better in the seatbelt, lighting, signalling and mirrors department. The majority of North American AA-bodies were low-spec cars with "adequate" brakes, "adequate" suspension, power nothing, etc. |
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
> > http://members.aol.com/peterwendt/usautogw.htm > > Wow, an Spirit was up to a European's standards. The Chrysler Saratoga (as the car was known there) was equipped similarly to the highest-spec North American Spirits in the suspension, steering, brake, durability and luxury equipment departments, and much better in the seatbelt, lighting, signalling and mirrors department. The majority of North American AA-bodies were low-spec cars with "adequate" brakes, "adequate" suspension, power nothing, etc. |
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As you are such a clever-clogs, why don't you explain why the cited website
is such a paean to 'American' cars, other than the headline and general criticsm of German cars? The site has extensive descriptions of problems with his American cars. DAS -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message n.umich.edu... > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Dori A Schmetterling wrote: > >> Don't quite get it. > > Surprise, surprise, surprise...Dori doesn't get it. > > Go back to sleep, dearie. Sorry to wake you. |
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As you are such a clever-clogs, why don't you explain why the cited website
is such a paean to 'American' cars, other than the headline and general criticsm of German cars? The site has extensive descriptions of problems with his American cars. DAS -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message n.umich.edu... > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Dori A Schmetterling wrote: > >> Don't quite get it. > > Surprise, surprise, surprise...Dori doesn't get it. > > Go back to sleep, dearie. Sorry to wake you. |
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The Merc M-Class has come in for particular stick.
While most of you don't have the pleasure of reading our very own Jeremy Clarkson's words of wisdom on cars every Sunday (in the UK Sunday Times), I know that many of you have heard of him through other ways, so you may like to hear about his comments on the results of a recent BBC Top Gear customer satisfaction survey. Top Gear is a top motoring programme and has a classy magazine associated with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/survey/ Of 142 cars surveyed in the UK, the M-Class was BOTTOM for reliability. Clarkson gives two reasons ..."appalling dealer network but also because it's made in Alabama, where the locals are good at picking cotton, singing mournful songs and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd but not so good at attaching complicated pieces of machinery to one another." You can read the whole article -- which is mainly about the new Peugeot 407 -- here (see page 2): http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...376145,00.html (Just for comparison, only one west European brand was in the top ten, Jag at No. 2). What do you think about the car workers of Alabama...?... DAS -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "A.Muewi" > wrote in message ... > Hi everybody, > I am probably one of the few Germans who, after driving several German > made cars (Fords, Audi, Smart) and one Honda, bought 3 American cars. I > live in a neighborhood where everybody else works at the local Mercedes > plant and drives Mercedes. Not me. I don't like car trouble. [...] |
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The Merc M-Class has come in for particular stick.
While most of you don't have the pleasure of reading our very own Jeremy Clarkson's words of wisdom on cars every Sunday (in the UK Sunday Times), I know that many of you have heard of him through other ways, so you may like to hear about his comments on the results of a recent BBC Top Gear customer satisfaction survey. Top Gear is a top motoring programme and has a classy magazine associated with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/survey/ Of 142 cars surveyed in the UK, the M-Class was BOTTOM for reliability. Clarkson gives two reasons ..."appalling dealer network but also because it's made in Alabama, where the locals are good at picking cotton, singing mournful songs and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd but not so good at attaching complicated pieces of machinery to one another." You can read the whole article -- which is mainly about the new Peugeot 407 -- here (see page 2): http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...376145,00.html (Just for comparison, only one west European brand was in the top ten, Jag at No. 2). What do you think about the car workers of Alabama...?... DAS -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "A.Muewi" > wrote in message ... > Hi everybody, > I am probably one of the few Germans who, after driving several German > made cars (Fords, Audi, Smart) and one Honda, bought 3 American cars. I > live in a neighborhood where everybody else works at the local Mercedes > plant and drives Mercedes. Not me. I don't like car trouble. [...] |
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