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dwindling/growing number of cars?
anyone ever hear of a statistic on the number of registered older,
antique, vintage cars? i guess the question is something like? in any given model year 300,000 new go-mobiles are registered the next year less, 10 years later 100,000, 20 years 10,000 and so on so the registered ones decline in relationship to their age, but? does it reach a point where someone decides this is a classic and then people start buying and restoring them so the number begins to grow? just a thought then maybe it reaches another level where people just get tired of them and they rust away? what do you think? bill |
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> wrote in message ... > Actually I believe you will find MORE not fewer. It took Henry > Ford about 20 years to sell 1,000,000 cars. Well, that all depends on WHICH Ford. The Model T was introduced in October of 1908 and was discontinued in 1927 -- that's 19 years and he sold 15 million of them. Rabbit |
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no let me re-state this
lets just say 1957 corvette no idea how many they sold but 100% got registered the next year attrition, accidents, whatever took place and there were only 90% of that next year 75% and on and on then maybe in 72 only 20% that were made were still around and registered then someone said "hey, i know there is this one sitting in a barn in montana" and in 1973 there were now 21% and a bunch more were found in somebody's estate, so now in 1974 24% or the original year of production are now registered? so? where am i going with this? anyway then ...... >anyone ever hear of a statistic on the number of registered older, >antique, vintage cars? > >i guess the question is something like? > >in any given model year 300,000 new go-mobiles are registered >the next year less, 10 years later 100,000, 20 years 10,000 and so on > >so the registered ones decline in relationship to their age, >but? does it reach a point where someone decides this is >a classic and then people start buying and restoring them > >so the number begins to grow? > >just a thought > >then maybe it reaches another level where people just >get tired of them and they rust away? > >what do you think? > >bill |
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What about those of us that don't register their antiques or classics but do
drive them with repair plates ? Bill > wrote in message ... > no let me re-state this > > lets just say 1957 corvette > > no idea how many they sold > > but 100% got registered > > the next year attrition, accidents, whatever took place > and there were only 90% of that > > next year 75% > > and on and on > > then maybe in 72 only 20% that were made were still > around and registered > > then someone said "hey, i know there is this one > sitting in a barn in montana" > > and in 1973 there were now 21% > and a bunch more were found in somebody's estate, > so now in 1974 24% or the original year of production are now > registered? > > so? where am i going with this? > > anyway then ...... > > >anyone ever hear of a statistic on the number of registered older, > >antique, vintage cars? > > > >i guess the question is something like? > > > >in any given model year 300,000 new go-mobiles are registered > >the next year less, 10 years later 100,000, 20 years 10,000 and so on > > > >so the registered ones decline in relationship to their age, > >but? does it reach a point where someone decides this is > >a classic and then people start buying and restoring them > > > >so the number begins to grow? > > > >just a thought > > > >then maybe it reaches another level where people just > >get tired of them and they rust away? > > > >what do you think? > > > >bill > |
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gettin way to far theoretical here
here is the question lots of cars are sold, lots fall by the wayside is there a point where the number of cars of a year type model cease to decline and start to come back due to collector interest and then as that interest wanes start declining again? On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:07:03 GMT, "berkshire bill" > wrote: >What about those of us that don't register their antiques or classics but do >drive them with repair plates ? > >Bill > wrote in message .. . >> no let me re-state this >> >> lets just say 1957 corvette >> >> no idea how many they sold >> >> but 100% got registered >> >> the next year attrition, accidents, whatever took place >> and there were only 90% of that >> >> next year 75% >> >> and on and on >> >> then maybe in 72 only 20% that were made were still >> around and registered >> >> then someone said "hey, i know there is this one >> sitting in a barn in montana" >> >> and in 1973 there were now 21% >> and a bunch more were found in somebody's estate, >> so now in 1974 24% or the original year of production are now >> registered? >> >> so? where am i going with this? >> >> anyway then ...... >> >> >anyone ever hear of a statistic on the number of registered older, >> >antique, vintage cars? >> > >> >i guess the question is something like? >> > >> >in any given model year 300,000 new go-mobiles are registered >> >the next year less, 10 years later 100,000, 20 years 10,000 and so on >> > >> >so the registered ones decline in relationship to their age, >> >but? does it reach a point where someone decides this is >> >a classic and then people start buying and restoring them >> > >> >so the number begins to grow? >> > >> >just a thought >> > >> >then maybe it reaches another level where people just >> >get tired of them and they rust away? >> > >> >what do you think? >> > >> >bill >> > |
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> gettin way to far theoretical here > > here is the question > > lots of cars are sold, lots fall by the wayside > is there a point where the number of cars of a year type model cease > to decline and start to come back due to collector interest and then > as that interest wanes start declining again? I think it would be impossible to come up with exact numbers, but what does happen is that cars come back into fashion, people collect them, and then after a while they become so old that they aren't driven very much. In the 1970s brass touring cars were all the rage and clubs would drive them great distances. But the old owners died off, the new owners (often receiving them in wills) didn't have much interest in them, and they went into museums. I think the cars of the 1940s will follow them there in the next little while. It all goes in cycles, with the next generation interested in cars that are a little closer to their age group -- hence the recent surge in 1960s and some 1970s cars. Rabbit |
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> I have heard that, for one marque (Frazer Nash?) there are now more > genuine cars in circulation than were ever made by the factory. Using > the "60% original" rule, two complete cars can be turned into three > "genuine" cars using spare parts. > I think that if you were able to check GM's record, the number of SS cars built versus the number of SS cars that show up in shows or auctions would be hilarious! Rabbit |
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Rabbit wrote:
>>I have heard that, for one marque (Frazer Nash?) there are now more >>genuine cars in circulation than were ever made by the factory. Using >>the "60% original" rule, two complete cars can be turned into three >>"genuine" cars using spare parts. >> > > > I think that if you were able to check GM's record, the number of SS cars > built versus the number of SS cars that show up in shows or auctions would > be hilarious! > > Rabbit > > And then there's the Miracle Of Fiberglass. Anyone care to guess the number of '41 Willys currently streeting or stripping compared to actual production numbers? I be that would make the "SS" phenomenon seem like small potatoes. |
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Rabbit ) wrote:
: I think it would be impossible to come up with exact numbers, but what does : happen is that cars come back into fashion, people collect them, and then : after a while they become so old that they aren't driven very much. In the : 1970s brass touring cars were all the rage and clubs would drive them great : distances. : But the old owners died off, the new owners (often receiving them in wills) : didn't have much interest in them, and they went into museums. I think the : cars of the 1940s will follow them there in the next little while. It all : goes in cycles, with the next generation interested in cars that are a : little closer to their age group -- hence the recent surge in 1960s and some : 1970s cars. I think what you say is true, but it reminds me of something I have wondered about before... what happens to the old restored car. In the 70s there was an active antique car club here with a variety of restored old cars. The club is still active, but mostly with different members, and nobody knows where the cars that were owned by the membership back then have gone. They aren't all in museums, and they were restored, so they didn't go to junkyards. They just seem to have disappeared. Back to the original question: I certainly see more Mustangs now than I did 10-15 years ago. The power of repro sheetmetal... -- Greg Beaulieu Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada |
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