F1 sims? What is it with you guys?

> We are talking about mechanical performance of an automobile. Today's F1
> car
> destroys the other cars I mentioned.
> --
> David G Fisher-

That doesn't necessarily make them more fun to drive though does it?
I know plenty of people who think the idea of driving a rally stage is far
more exciting than driving an F1 car
Don't get me wrong, I love driving F1 cars, but I like a bit of variety too
and I'm happy to drive any great racing series from the past, or any that I
can watch today, just to get a taste of what that particular series was/is
like.

Robin

GPL and GPII are the only one's that have ever been worth a damn IMHO.

-Larry

"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
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> I was following a thread from a couple of different links and ended up
> on the Blackhole Motorsports forum. There one of the threads in the forum
> was asking about F1 cars in GTR. We need a good F1 sim...we need more F1.
> We need we need we need....
>
> Crimeny! We have had multiple F1 sims since 1996. Grand prix 1,2,3,4.
> F1rc, F12kx thru F1c. And yet they keep crying for more F1 sims. Granted
> the sport is changing and it's good to see updates...but MAN!
> We are finally seeing some decent rally sims like Richard Burns. We are
> finally seeing some improving Sportscar sims like GTR. We've got World
> racing on the horizon, rFactor and more, it seems the sim world has
> finally weened itself off of ONLY F1 or Nascar. So the MOMENT there is a
> slight pause in F1sims...we get the above....
>
> I watch F1, I'm a fan. It's not my favorite, but I rarely miss a race on
> the tube. I don't usually drive the F1 sims, but do use them for mods.
> I'm not ANTI F1, I'm just suprised that the one group that HAS been well
> represented for the last 6 or 7 years is the one group whining for more
> more more
>
> dave henrie
>
>

Some of us are starting to become Older, Sloppier people LOL

-Larry

"David G Fisher" > wrote in message
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"I've always wanted to start a thread which asked why some of you are so
obsessed with driving old, slow, sloppy handling cars, or slow, sports cars"

To me, it's because unlike all other recent ISI based SIMS, including GTR
for me, it actually FEELS like you're driving a car that isn't suspended 2"
above the ground.

-Larry

"Dave Henrie" > wrote in message
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> Fair enough, but here is another question that has been itching at me.
> rFactor is the latest ISI version. And everyone pretty much has been
> raving about this demo. What is it that separates rFactor from the
> previous ISI f12kx line of sims that gets everyone so hot? What is it
> that
> has caught everyone's attention. After all, you could say rFactor is just
> F1c++ or even Nascar Racing Sim+.
> Again, I've been using ISI sims for the last 5 years. I'm not knocking
> them now. I'm just curious why others who have been so adamnatly(sp?)
> against prior ISI releases, even F1c, are now all hot to trot over
> rFactor.
> I'm not singling you out David, just the whole group has latched on to
> rFactor when in the past this has been a very devided user's group.
>
> dave henrie

"Larry" > wrote in news:Swsce.63$%44.51@lakeread06:

> GPL and GPII are the only one's that have ever been worth a damn IMHO.
>

That is so so true...


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You have convinced yourself of that Larry. All simulators to a certain
extent rely on the ability to fool your brain into thinking its reality.
Whether its conditioning to the Papy feel or something else I dont know but
if you had no other choices and were forced to run GTR I feel with certainty
you would end up wondering how on Earth you could have been so wrong in the
first place.

Just to be clear I feel the low speed grip is an issue that carried over
from previous ISI stuff but Im able to over look that small detail and see
all the many other wonderful small details that do add up to a GREAT sim.

No matter what other sims I currently run I end up back at GTR land.

The rumor mill is churning and supposedly Simbin is releasing a huge multi
upg this weekend or early next week.

I wonder if GT legends will use Gmotor2?


Mitch


"Larry" > wrote in message news:Gzsce.65$%44.35@lakeread06...
> To me, it's because unlike all other recent ISI based SIMS, including GTR
> for me, it actually FEELS like you're driving a car that isn't suspended
> 2" above the ground.
>
> -Larry

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:18:36 GMT, Mitch_A wrote:
>
> I wonder if GT legends will use Gmotor2?


I think I recall some statement to that effect, but I might be mixing
things up with some rFactor blurb.

Cheers, uwe



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Byron Forbes wrote:
>...
> Oh, and a replay format
> done by someone with half a clue, like NR2003, would be nice too.
How about LFS's single player replay? It stores the input's you make
rather than where you car is on the track.
And so recreates the replay 1:1, exactly like you did a moment ago.
Also take the AI, it drives the same physics as you do, no faking what
so ever.

"Krane" > wrote in message
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> Byron Forbes wrote:
>>...
>> Oh, and a replay format done by someone with half a clue, like NR2003,
>> would be nice too.
> How about LFS's single player replay? It stores the input's you make
> rather than where you car is on the track.
> And so recreates the replay 1:1, exactly like you did a moment ago.
> Also take the AI, it drives the same physics as you do, no faking what so
> ever.

I might have to take a look at this thing one day - how does it compare
to PWF or GTP overall?

"Uwe Schürkamp" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:04:46 -0400, David G Fisher wrote:
> >
> > I've always wanted to start a thread which asked why some of you are so
> > obsessed with driving old, slow, sloppy handling cars, or slow, sports
cars.
> > NASCAR cars? When you could drive an F1 car? Didn't bother though
because I
> > know it would just **** some of you off, and I know the answers anyway.
>
> For me, the answer is simple: I can still drive a sports car like
> those in GTR with reasonable precision after a couple of beers, while
> in F1C you really have to be on the edge with lightning quick
> reactions in order not to suck or to crash. The "edge" in F1C is a
> much sharper blade than those relatively forgiving sports cars in GTR,
> or even GTP for that matter.
>
>
> Cheers, uwe
>
>
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I'm definitely at my best with the F1 cars, and I think I need the "edge" to
keep me focused. I become easily frustrated with the way other types of cars
aren't as precise.

Maybe I have attention deficit disorder. :-)
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David G Fisher