newbie Honda CR-V questions

limehand wrote:

> I am an old VW person that is sick of the unreliability of VWs these
> days. And really like the CR-V when driving it. Its really perfect for
> us. I just to make IT perfect 8)
>
> Michael
>
--------------------

If your prospective car has been 'unlocked' by a tow truck operator
(locksmith) a few times, that could explain why the trim is bowed out.
They jam wedges in there to get the 'slim Jim' down inside. My wife's is
that way more than mine, probably for the same reason. You could walk
into a body shop and ask the most experienced looking guy about it . . .

I know what you're saying about V Dub. I owned a couple and ditched them
as soon as I started hanging on a newsgroup! Volvo was the same, due to
the (same) electrics.

'Curly'

On Mar 4, 4:45 pm, delbert brecht > wrote:
> Looks like the outside molding strips for each of the four windows cost
> about $42 each. This is for the outside molding only which is all you should
> have to replace. See this URL for a 1999 CRV. Best to drill down to the
> appropriate page for you particular model though. Sunlight is the enemy of
> rubber and plastic.
>
> http://www.hondapartscheap.com/south...jsp?hidSwitch=...
> o=&catcgry1=CR-V&catcgry2=1999&catcgry3=5DR+EX&catcgry4=LM&catcgr y5=MOLDING&
> vinsrch=no&ListAll=&prdrefno=&act=&count=0&quantit y=0
>
> You will need a few tools such as a door panel tool, a hook or pick, and
> screwdrivers to get the door panel off. Taking the inside door panel off and
> rolling the window down (do that before you disconnect the window motor wire
> harness) is the only way I have ever done this job. The metal clips on the
> molding just press into small rectangular holes in the door. Pry the old one
> out and then press the new one in. Best to have a service manual to get the
> panel off. Some tricky hidden stuff that must be removed on the door handle
> and sometimes the speaker mount under the speaker grill. The manual shows
> you the location of each of the plastic clips so you know where to place the
> panel tool to pop them loose. The manual will tell you how to do it
> properly. You can find manuals for the CRV on bit torrent or I got one on
> Ebay for $3.00 on CD. They are just homemade scans (1300 pages worth)
> probably just downloaded from bit torrent and then burned onto CD. The Body
> section is where the door panel info is located.
>
> I have had some success with "restoring" the pliability of degraded rubber
> with a liquid compound used by Laser and Copier technicians that use it to
> restore the tackiness of paper pickup rollers. It is call "Rubber
> Rejuvenator" or "Rubber Roller Cleaner" and can be purchased from
>
> http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/
>
> I have also used a hot air gun to "unfold" rubber window moldings that got
> caught up on the glass when it was going down and folded over and stayed
> folded over when the window went back up. If they stay in that position very
> long they will "set" the fold and only the most severe treatment will
> restore them. After I heat the rubber I place a piece of wood on each side
> of the rubber strip and keep it clamped in the unfolded position until it
> cools and sets. Usually works.
>
> 3/4/08 1:473/4/08
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 12:18 am, motsco_ > wrote:
> >> limehand wrote:
> >>> "such a crock"......?
>
> >>> OK... I'm the one that doesn't know anything... I almost forgot there for
> >>> a second.
>
> >>> When the windows are powered down from being fully up (closed)
> >>> specifically the drivers window and its raining on this window (and
> >>> the other windows at the same time of course) the raindrops dont get
> >>> wiped off by the rubber stripping that is fitted horizontally on the
> >>> top of the door (not the very top of the door above the window but the
> >>> "top" where you can lean your arm on when sitting in the car with the
> >>> window fully down of course.
>
> >>> Now my assumption is that when this water goes in between the glass of
> >>> the window and the plastic/rubber piece (I call this piece weather
> >>> stripping) it continues down into the door and from there well I just
> >>> dont know where it goes but if the inside of the door (the metal
> >>> parts) gets wet and doesnt dry off it will rust and this might make a
> >>> hole in the door which of course will make me unhappy.
>
> >>> No one told me about this. I just sort of worked it out by myself.
>
> >>> cheers curly
>
> >>> Michael
>
> >> ------------------------
>
> >> Hmmmmm. I don't think any of my 8 CR-V windows 'squeegee' themselves
> >> perfectly when going down.. There are three or four drain holes provided
> >> at the bottom of the door, and a vinyl shield inside to keep the
> >> moisture away from the controls and inner door panel. I've asked myself
> >> whether I could adjust the trim that holds the 'squeegee' so it would
> >> wipe better. I don't think it matters much since it NEVER comes up on
> >> the newsgroups. www.slhondaparts.comhasyour parts diagrams. Your
> >> owner's manual is athttps://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp
>
> >> 'Curly'
>
> > I had a look at the two URL's you provided curly and neither added
> > more to what I know (not much) and this is the following.
>
> > The original strip did in fact come into contact with the glass and
> > therefore couldnt help but squeegee (good term) the glass (in my
> > opinion). I got this info from looking at a CR-V on the road side here
> > in Toronto it was quite tight and bent up a bit against the glass
> > quite different to my prospective car the strip on which seems to be
> > bowed out leaving a gap of three sixteenths I reckon in the middle.
> > Maybe this was caused by UV ? They seem brittle.
>
> > Thanks for the info about where the water goes by the way.
>
> > I called a couple of Honda dealers in Toronto and the part which is a
> > single piece is around $114.00 each. I then did a search and found a
> > couple of places where they were $26.00 or so, not so bad but I dont
> > know if I have to take off the panel inside the doors or just dig it
> > out from the outside and click a new one in (im hoping). One of the
> > parts girls said I had to take off the mirror on the front doors but
> > who knows? I get the impression these dealership parts people are all
> > in training still.
> > I am an old VW person that is sick of the unreliability of VWs these
> > days. And really like the CR-V when driving it. Its really perfect for
> > us. I just to make IT perfect 8)
>
> > Michael
>
> pickleman
> (please remove yourpants)--

THANKS for the bittorrent lead MUCH appreciated. I spoke with seller
of car about this and his offer was I get the parts and he installs
for nothing BUT he did say it could be done from outside the car
without taking the panel off which presumably is a nightmare and a
thief of much time?

I just dont want to do it myself at this time of year or wait for July
It is getting on my nerves thinking about all this. I DO believe you
but MUST the panel come off? He said its an hour job. Can the panel
come off and go back on in one hour? (by a newbie) Do you reckon?

thanks pickleman

cheers
Michael

On Mar 5, 8:25 pm, delbert brecht > wrote:
> I can't find in the service manual where they tell you a recommended
> procedure on how to do this. I have only done it with the door panel off. It
> isn't that big a job and you only have to learn on your first one the rest
> are the same. I would do one of the rear doors first and when the panel is
> off look at the set up and make a judgment as to the feasibility of doing it
> without removing the door panel. I could have a door panel off in less than
> 15 minutes and then back together in 10. If you pry use a soft cloth to
> prevent paint damage and do not pry u p or down on glass.
>
> 3/5/08 2:093/5/08
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 4:45 pm, delbert brecht > wrote:
> >> Looks like the outside molding strips for each of the four windows cost
> >> about $42 each. This is for the outside molding only which is all you should
> >> have to replace. See this URL for a 1999 CRV. Best to drill down to the
> >> appropriate page for you particular model though. Sunlight is the enemy of
> >> rubber and plastic.
>
> >>http://www.hondapartscheap.com/south...jsp?hidSwitch=...
> >> o=&catcgry1=CR-V&catcgry2=1999&catcgry3=5DR+EX&catcgry4=LM&catcgr y5=MOLDING&
> >> vinsrch=no&ListAll=&prdrefno=&act=&count=0&quantit y=0
>
> >> You will need a few tools such as a door panel tool, a hook or pick, and
> >> screwdrivers to get the door panel off. Taking the inside door panel off and
> >> rolling the window down (do that before you disconnect the window motor wire
> >> harness) is the only way I have ever done this job. The metal clips on the
> >> molding just press into small rectangular holes in the door. Pry the old one
> >> out and then press the new one in. Best to have a service manual to get the
> >> panel off. Some tricky hidden stuff that must be removed on the door handle
> >> and sometimes the speaker mount under the speaker grill. The manual shows
> >> you the location of each of the plastic clips so you know where to place the
> >> panel tool to pop them loose. The manual will tell you how to do it
> >> properly. You can find manuals for the CRV on bit torrent or I got one on
> >> Ebay for $3.00 on CD. They are just homemade scans (1300 pages worth)
> >> probably just downloaded from bit torrent and then burned onto CD. The Body
> >> section is where the door panel info is located.
>
> >> I have had some success with "restoring" the pliability of degraded rubber
> >> with a liquid compound used by Laser and Copier technicians that use it to
> >> restore the tackiness of paper pickup rollers. It is call "Rubber
> >> Rejuvenator" or "Rubber Roller Cleaner" and can be purchased from
>
> >>http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/
>
> >> I have also used a hot air gun to "unfold" rubber window moldings that got
> >> caught up on the glass when it was going down and folded over and stayed
> >> folded over when the window went back up. If they stay in that position very
> >> long they will "set" the fold and only the most severe treatment will
> >> restore them. After I heat the rubber I place a piece of wood on each side
> >> of the rubber strip and keep it clamped in the unfolded position until it
> >> cools and sets. Usually works.
>
> >> 3/4/08 1:473/4/08
>
> >>> On Mar 4, 12:18 am, motsco_ > wrote:
> >>>> limehand wrote:
> >>>>> "such a crock"......?
>
> >>>>> OK... I'm the one that doesn't know anything... I almost forgot there for
> >>>>> a second.
>
> >>>>> When the windows are powered down from being fully up (closed)
> >>>>> specifically the drivers window and its raining on this window (and
> >>>>> the other windows at the same time of course) the raindrops dont get
> >>>>> wiped off by the rubber stripping that is fitted horizontally on the
> >>>>> top of the door (not the very top of the door above the window but the
> >>>>> "top" where you can lean your arm on when sitting in the car with the
> >>>>> window fully down of course.
>
> >>>>> Now my assumption is that when this water goes in between the glass of
> >>>>> the window and the plastic/rubber piece (I call this piece weather
> >>>>> stripping) it continues down into the door and from there well I just
> >>>>> dont know where it goes but if the inside of the door (the metal
> >>>>> parts) gets wet and doesnt dry off it will rust and this might make a
> >>>>> hole in the door which of course will make me unhappy.
>
> >>>>> No one told me about this. I just sort of worked it out by myself.
>
> >>>>> cheers curly
>
> >>>>> Michael
>
> >>>> ------------------------
>
> >>>> Hmmmmm. I don't think any of my 8 CR-V windows 'squeegee' themselves
> >>>> perfectly when going down.. There are three or four drain holes provided
> >>>> at the bottom of the door, and a vinyl shield inside to keep the
> >>>> moisture away from the controls and inner door panel. I've asked myself
> >>>> whether I could adjust the trim that holds the 'squeegee' so it would
> >>>> wipe better. I don't think it matters much since it NEVER comes up on
> >>>> the newsgroups. www.slhondaparts.comhasyourparts diagrams. Your
> >>>> owner's manual is
> >>>> athttps://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/RJAAI001_OMANUAL.asp
>
> >>>> 'Curly'
>
> >>> I had a look at the two URL's you provided curly and neither added
> >>> more to what I know (not much) and this is the following.
>
> >>> The original strip did in fact come into contact with the glass and
> >>> therefore couldnt help but squeegee (good term) the glass (in my
> >>> opinion). I got this info from looking at a CR-V on the road side here
> >>> in Toronto it was quite tight and bent up a bit against the glass
> >>> quite different to my prospective car the strip on which seems to be
> >>> bowed out leaving a gap of three sixteenths I reckon in the middle.
> >>> Maybe this was caused by UV ? They seem brittle.
>
> >>> Thanks for the info about where the water goes by the way.
>
> >>> I called a couple of Honda dealers in Toronto and the part which is a
> >>> single piece is around $114.00 each. I then did a search and found a
> >>> couple of places where they were $26.00 or so, not so bad but I dont
> >>> know if I have to take off the panel inside the doors or just dig it
> >>> out from the outside and click a new one in (im hoping). One of the
> >>> parts girls said I had to take off the mirror on the front doors but
> >>> who knows? I get the impression these dealership parts people are all
> >>> in training still.
> >>> I am an old VW person that is sick of the unreliability of VWs these
> >>> days. And really like the CR-V when driving it. Its really perfect for
> >>> us. I just to make IT perfect 8)
>
> >>> Michael
>
> >> pickleman
> >> (please remove yourpants)--
>
> > THANKS for the bittorrent lead MUCH appreciated. I spoke with seller
> > of car about this and his offer was I get the parts and he installs
> > for nothing BUT he did say it could be done from outside the car
> > without taking the panel off which presumably is a nightmare and a
> > thief of much time?
>
> > I just dont want to do it myself at this time of year or wait for July
> > It is getting on my nerves thinking about all this. I DO believe you
> > but MUST the panel come off? He said its an hour job. Can the panel
> > come off and go back on in one hour? (by a newbie) Do you reckon?
>
> > thanks pickleman
>
> > cheers
> > Michael
>
> --
> Pickleman
>
> Please remove "yourpants" to reply
> 1988 Civic DX retired with 234K due to extensive rust and gas tank problems
> 1998 Civic HX MT with 138K
> 2000 CRV EX MT with 98K

Hello pickleman

I have been a busy boy and have had a chat with a friendly dealership
autobody person here in Toronto and he tells me the pieces we are
talking about can be removed and replaced from outside the doors using
a putty knife to get the clips undone after taking off the mirror and
a couple of screws.
and he says drop round and I will show you...8) Soooo The BIG question
is did Honda manufacture a car that allowed rain to run through the
doors and put stripping on the door that was never intended to
actually clean the winow of rain (thus allowing the driver to see
through the window) or not? I would be disappointed to hear this is
standard on Honda CR-Vs

My neXt question will be Does anyone know if there was a diesel engine
made for the CR-V UK Europena market I think there was The next
question is of course has anyone ever put in a UK/Euro diesel into a
Can/American CR-V?

Michael