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Sebring---- SUDDEN ACCELERATION
Our 2002 Sebring Coupe with 6cyl- 3.0 engine suddenly accelerated while
backing up in a parking lot causing a wreck. It lurched backward at top speed. Has anyone heard of this happening? |
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jonz6 wrote:
> Our 2002 Sebring Coupe with 6cyl- 3.0 engine suddenly accelerated while > backing up in a parking lot causing a wreck. It lurched backward at top > speed. Has anyone heard of this happening? > Yes, it happened with several Audi's many years ago. The cause then was likely the same as the cause with your Sebring ... the driving mistakenly mashing the throttle thinking they are hitting the brake. Matt |
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Nope i didn't happen that way. My wife was backing up with her foot on
the brake. She must not have been braking that hard.. but she says she had her foot on the brake pedal and when shifting forward on the shift lever into drive & past neutral is when it SUDDENLY jumped backward and fast. She then smashed on the brake pedal at the same time she crunched into another car. |
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jonz6 wrote:
> Nope i didn't happen that way. My wife was backing up with her foot on > the brake. She must not have been braking that hard.. but she says she > had her foot on the brake pedal and when shifting forward on the shift > lever into drive & past neutral is when it SUDDENLY jumped backward and > fast. She then smashed on the brake pedal at the same time she crunched > into another car. > I haven't driven a Sebring, but all floor mounted automatics that I've driven have P-R-N-D-2-1 with Park at the front (towards the dash). So, if your wife was backing up, that suggests she was in reverse. If she moved the parking lever forward from there, she would have engaged park not drive or neutral. If the shifter is column mounted, then it is moving left/right or up/down, not forward/back. Something isn't jiving with this story. Matt |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, jonz6 wrote:
> Nope i didn't happen that way. My wife was backing up with her foot on > the brake. She must not have been braking that hard.. but she says she > had her foot on the brake pedal and when shifting forward on the shift > lever into drive & past neutral is when it SUDDENLY jumped backward and > fast. Nope, it didn't happen that way. Your wife hit the gas without knowing it, period. I know it's less embarrassing and less expensive for her to blame it on the car, but cars do not behave so much as they are behaved upon. |
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"jonz6" > wrote in message oups.com... > Nope i didn't happen that way. My wife was backing up with her foot on > the brake. She must not have been braking that hard.. but she says she > had her foot on the brake pedal and when shifting forward on the shift > lever into drive & past neutral is when it SUDDENLY jumped backward and > fast. She then smashed on the brake pedal at the same time she crunched > into another car. If you want to make any kind of a legal case, you will have a major uphill battle. As others have stated, the AVN ("Audi Victims Network") legal campaign went down in flames when multiple and overwhelming sources of evidence showed to everyone (including consumer organizations) that driver error was at fault. Drivers inevitably swore they did not commit pedal error, even when it was conclusively demonstrated they had. Additionally, a high proportion of the drivers involved were either menopause-age women or seniors of both sexes. Please don't take this as a challenge to your (or your wife's) honesty, merely a "heads-up" about the historical background. |
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Dave Gower wrote:
> "jonz6" > wrote in message > oups.com... > >>Nope i didn't happen that way. My wife was backing up with her foot on >>the brake. She must not have been braking that hard.. but she says she >>had her foot on the brake pedal and when shifting forward on the shift >>lever into drive & past neutral is when it SUDDENLY jumped backward and >>fast. She then smashed on the brake pedal at the same time she crunched >>into another car. > > > If you want to make any kind of a legal case, you will have a major uphill > battle. As others have stated, the AVN ("Audi Victims Network") legal > campaign went down in flames when multiple and overwhelming sources of > evidence showed to everyone (including consumer organizations) that driver > error was at fault. Drivers inevitably swore they did not commit pedal > error, even when it was conclusively demonstrated they had. Additionally, a > high proportion of the drivers involved were either menopause-age women or > seniors of both sexes. > > Please don't take this as a challenge to your (or your wife's) honesty, > merely a "heads-up" about the historical background. Yes, I don't think it is an honesty issue. I believe that many, if not all, of the Audi drivers really believed that they were mashing the brake, when they were, unfortunately, mashing the throttle. And this gentleman's wife very likely also believed that as well. However, that still doesn't change the fact that it is about 99.44% certain that she hit the throttle by mistake, especially if she was twisted around looking backwards when backing up. Matt |
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"Nomen Nescio" > wrote in message ... > Back in the good old days, sometimes the gas pedal linkage would bind or > the return spring pop off. Get a good independent mechanic to inspect the > mechanical control to the throttle body. > > Big air leaks will also cause this effect. Possible a large diameter > vacuum hose popped loose. > > You have no idea how dangerous today's cars are. If the vacuum hose to > the > brake booster pops off, you will crash before you realize what happened. > > If a fuel line pops off at the fuel injector rail, the fire resulting will > cremate your entire car. > > That is why cars need FAA certification; not because they cannot fly. In > the meantime, pay $50,000 for a car full of things that can pop off. > If you're paying $50K for a car, you've been royally ripped. But assuredly if that were built the way you want to be, they'd be $100K. No thanks! |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> In article .com>, > says... > >>Our 2002 Sebring Coupe with 6cyl- 3.0 engine suddenly accelerated while >>backing up in a parking lot causing a wreck. It lurched backward at top >>speed. Has anyone heard of this happening? > > > Yes. This happened to Audi's a while back. The government did a lot of > reasearch. In all instances the brake system was still functioning > properly. In all instances the drivers states they were stepping on the > brakes as hard as they could and the car kept going. The government came > to the conclusion that this was a case of pedal mis-application. That > means that driver was stepping on the wrong pedal. I don't think that > is what you wanted to hear. Nobody wants to hear that, but that is the fact. Also, there are very few cars that have an engine that can overpower the brakes. And you'd likely need AWD as in FWD or RWD, two wheels locked will keep the other two wheels from moving the car at any rate of speed in any event. When I first heard the Audi stories years ago, I knew they were bogus without even doing an investigation. Simple physics showed that you couldn't possibly have a car that couldn't be controlled using the brakes at full application. Of course, if there had been a defect in the brakes, then the claims would have been plausible, but that was never found to be the case in any of the cars. Nobody wants to hear that the problem was them, but that is usually the case in these sudden acceleration cases. I'm not saying there isn't the potential for this to happen, as anything is certainly possible. It is possible that the brakes could fail at the exact same time that a software bug in the ECU commanded full throttle, but that is a long shot beyond long shots. Matt |
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