Objects hanging from rear view mirror may be legaler than they appear

> That's pretty standard anywhere, cops don't give tickets to cops and
> cops' families--unless it's a pretty bad situation. Sometimes this
> even extends to military police and police from out-of-area.

Not true around here. Cops don't cut foreign cops a break.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:17:49 -0700, The Real Bev
> wrote:

>Wouldn't it be better to just beat the children?

It would, but few parents today are capable of doing it.

At the train station the other day, there was a woman with two young
(roughly 7 - 8 year old) children who sat on the bench next to me.
What followed was a constant stream of "Stop it, Nathan..." "Stop it,
Jessica..." "Keep your hands to yourself, Nathan..." "Jessica, please
be quiet..." "Shhhhh!!!!!!!" "Nathan, stop it, I mean it..."

This literally went on for 20 minutes until my train came. The kids
basically ignored the mother's pleas, having learned long ago that she
was completely impotent WRT controlling them. I'm damn glad I was
taking Metrolink and this brood was riding Amtrak...

>A friend's Astrovan has a sliding door. Over the years it's gotten harder and
>harder to open and close, and now it actually hurts my arm to do it. So much
>for the tender ministrations of Jiffy Lube.

Jiffy Screw doesn't lube doors.

In article >,
David Chesler > wrote:
> I think I'm going to replace the station wagon with a mini-van,
>and join the 1990s.
>
> It will be well-used, but I can ask the dealer for particular
>features to try for.
>
> Do any models have opening windows for the second row?
>
> How often are swing-out doors available,

The first generation Honda Odyssey and Isuzu Oasis were sort of
in between a station wagon and a minivan, with proportions like
a small minivan, but with swingout instead of sliding doors.

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Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:17:49 -0700, The Real Bev
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Wouldn't it be better to just beat the children?
>
>
> It would, but few parents today are capable of doing it.

Many of us are willing and able, but would rather put
up with some misbehavior from the kids than get involved
with DYS. (We're also looking for vehicles with three
benches and space between the seats in the middle row,
because that's easier than turning around while driving,
and swivel seats for the front passenger for when the
separation isn't sufficient.)

--
- David Chesler >
Who doesn't believe in using time-outs because
they teach children that if somebody does something
you don't like it's OK to send them to another room.

">>>Wouldn't it be better to just beat the children?
>>
>>
>> It would, but few parents today are capable of doing it.
>
> Many of us are willing and able, but would rather put
> up with some misbehavior from the kids than get involved
> with DYS.

And so we all (as a society) suffer needlessly. If kids aren't disciplined
(and parents aren't allowed to discipline them anymore), they grow up to be
lifetime felons. In jail they aren't allowed to be disciplined, either. So
they get out early on parole and reproduce, having lots of baby felons that
they aren't allowed to discipline. -Dave

Ted B. wrote:
> And so we all (as a society) suffer needlessly. If kids aren't disciplined
> (and parents aren't allowed to discipline them anymore), they grow up to be
> lifetime felons. In jail they aren't allowed to be disciplined, either. So
> they get out early on parole and reproduce, having lots of baby felons that
> they aren't allowed to discipline. -Dave

Exactly! And that's why all 18-25 year olds today are felons; that's
why the teen drug abuse rate is down, that's why gang violence is down,
and that's why crime rates are down.

What we really need is more death penalties and more beatings. How
about the death penalty for robbery? Hell yeah! Why not just allow
parents to beat kids with canes in public? That would surely stop the
steady stream of felons that comes from all families who don't beat
their kids.

And what's up with not allowing torture in prisons? What we really need
to do is bring the Abu Ghraib prison guards here to America. That way,
after prisoners have their Bibles ****ed on and are sodomized by
guards, they will certainly not want to ever commit a crime again.

Finally, someone with a real solution to this country's problems.

In article .com>,
David Chesler > wrote:
>> Many police in Massachusetts consider any object hanging from a rear
>> view mirror to be an excuse to stop a car.
>
> Some property management companies issue parking placards designed to
>be hung from the rear view mirror, as does the Registry itself for
>handicapped parking placards.

The University of Maryland was infamous for issuing tickets if you
drove on campus with their parking pass on your mirror. And, of
course, they'd ticket you if you were parked without it on your
mirror. (alternate locations not permitted except by prior
arrangeemnt in certain cases, including convertibles and
motorcycles). Just a money-collection scam, that's all.

The Real Bev wrote:
>
[snip]

> It's illegal here to put anything on your rear window except in the bottom
> farthest-from-driver corner.

Even a center-mounted brake light? What about those people with the
menagerie of stuffed animals sitting on their rear-window shelf?

> I also use the spot on my pickup rear window
> directly behind my head -- if anybody thinks I can see out that spot they've
> watched The Exorcist way too many times.

Thin about a canopy or the typical pile of toolboxes and other gear
found in many pickups. A lousy sticker in the window is going to be
worse?

A friend has a pickup truck, and when he looks back, all he sees is a
big, ugly dog staring back at him.

;-)


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JohnH wrote:

> > That's pretty standard anywhere, cops don't give tickets to cops and
> > cops' families--unless it's a pretty bad situation. Sometimes this
> > even extends to military police and police from out-of-area.
>
> Not true around here. Cops don't cut foreign cops a break.

It does depend on where "around here" is.

John S wrote:
> David Chesler wrote:
>> Is that why you've taken a Dremel to the day/night paddle on the
>> bottom of your mirror?
>
>
> day/night paddle, what's that? My car's mirror dims automagically,
> and even before that wonderful invention came along I can't recall my
> vision being obstructed by anything. I have had a (not handicapped)
> parking pass hanging off the mirror and if I forget to remove it before
> starting the engine, I've ripped it off by the time I've exited the
> parking garage because I don't feel comfortable with a piece of plastic
> obstructing my view while I'm driving. I've never found it to be a pain
> in the ass to do, and I've never put any wear/tear on it either. I just
> store it in a handy place in my car while not in use.

I found the handiest place to be on the mirror :-)

All cars have blind spots. (Even convertibles have A pillars, not
to mention the spot behind the rear view mirror itself. Even
snub-nose buses have a blind spot directly in front of the vehicle.)
You've got to know where the blind spots are, and compensate. As long
as they're reasonable, it's easy enough to compensate.

As for pickup trucks (with dogs, caps, etc. blocking the inboard
mirror) as long as you've got mirrors on both sides of the vehicle,
you're in pretty good shape and probably legal. (You never know,
the code could well be written that any mirror must be unobstructed,
so you'd better remove the inboard mirror, or if that's illegal too,
order one from the factory without that mirror in the first place.)

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- David Chesler >
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