Rated miles per gallon is total BS!

c (TOM KAN PA) writes:

> I just read a post and several replies about poor gas mileage in a Neon.
> I have a '01 PT Cruiser with 30,000 miles on it. I just did the "recommended
> 30,000 miles spark plug replacement".
> I still feel lucky if once in 50 fill ups I get 17 mpg.
> 4 cylinder, auto, sticker rated at 22/27 mpg.
> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.

While the EPA ratings don't have a really strong correlation with
reality, Something Is Wrong with that mileage. If your commute is
more than a mile, you ought to be seeing much better than that...
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

another keyboard replies............

2001 5 speed cranberry PT just turned 41K

my wife who drives it more gently than I do got on a .5 tank mainly highway
(local OR 34) 30.24.
We (both driving it) average in mixed usage 26 to 27 MPG.
TO defend this statement........ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT after 16 miles,
north (no stops)
ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT
after 2 miles, south, then east for 62 miles with no light or stops
ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT
after 2 miles, south and then no lights for about 38 miles
NO stops or lights for about
..5 west, then wet tires.........
I live on the beach in Oregon just north of Waldport

Had PLUGS and WIRES changed under warranty.........and the mileage is now
back to the above numbers

Howard

another keyboard replies............

2001 5 speed cranberry PT just turned 41K

my wife who drives it more gently than I do got on a .5 tank mainly highway
(local OR 34) 30.24.
We (both driving it) average in mixed usage 26 to 27 MPG.
TO defend this statement........ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT after 16 miles,
north (no stops)
ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT
after 2 miles, south, then east for 62 miles with no light or stops
ONE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC LIGHT
after 2 miles, south and then no lights for about 38 miles
NO stops or lights for about
..5 west, then wet tires.........
I live on the beach in Oregon just north of Waldport

Had PLUGS and WIRES changed under warranty.........and the mileage is now
back to the above numbers

Howard

"Joe Pfeiffer" > wrote in message
...
> c (TOM KAN PA) writes:
>
>> I just read a post and several replies about poor gas mileage in a Neon.
>> I have a '01 PT Cruiser with 30,000 miles on it. I just did the
>> "recommended
>> 30,000 miles spark plug replacement".
>> I still feel lucky if once in 50 fill ups I get 17 mpg.
>> 4 cylinder, auto, sticker rated at 22/27 mpg.
>> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.
>
> While the EPA ratings don't have a really strong correlation with
> reality, Something Is Wrong with that mileage. If your commute is
> more than a mile, you ought to be seeing much better than that...
> --
> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

There are a long line of reports posted on the PT web sites that the 5 speed
does much much better in this regard. 18 in town and about 21 on the highway
are common for the automatic and that's what I get. But a few PT's out there
seem to be blessed with more power and economy. Must be some Mexican magic
at work

Richard.

"Joe Pfeiffer" > wrote in message
...
> c (TOM KAN PA) writes:
>
>> I just read a post and several replies about poor gas mileage in a Neon.
>> I have a '01 PT Cruiser with 30,000 miles on it. I just did the
>> "recommended
>> 30,000 miles spark plug replacement".
>> I still feel lucky if once in 50 fill ups I get 17 mpg.
>> 4 cylinder, auto, sticker rated at 22/27 mpg.
>> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.
>
> While the EPA ratings don't have a really strong correlation with
> reality, Something Is Wrong with that mileage. If your commute is
> more than a mile, you ought to be seeing much better than that...
> --
> Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

There are a long line of reports posted on the PT web sites that the 5 speed
does much much better in this regard. 18 in town and about 21 on the highway
are common for the automatic and that's what I get. But a few PT's out there
seem to be blessed with more power and economy. Must be some Mexican magic
at work

Richard.

I have a 2003 Grand Caravan with 3.3. I consistently get 16 litres/100 km ,
which is about 15mpg. This is lower that the advertized numbers. I thonk the
sticker says around 13-14lt/100km for city. I wonder after reading this post
I should ask the dealer to check something. Appreciate any comment with
similar car owners
Thanks


"TOM KAN PA" > wrote in message
...
> I just read a post and several replies about poor gas mileage in a Neon.
> I have a '01 PT Cruiser with 30,000 miles on it. I just did the
"recommended
> 30,000 miles spark plug replacement".
> I still feel lucky if once in 50 fill ups I get 17 mpg.
> 4 cylinder, auto, sticker rated at 22/27 mpg.
> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.
>
>
>

I have a 2003 Grand Caravan with 3.3. I consistently get 16 litres/100 km ,
which is about 15mpg. This is lower that the advertized numbers. I thonk the
sticker says around 13-14lt/100km for city. I wonder after reading this post
I should ask the dealer to check something. Appreciate any comment with
similar car owners
Thanks


"TOM KAN PA" > wrote in message
...
> I just read a post and several replies about poor gas mileage in a Neon.
> I have a '01 PT Cruiser with 30,000 miles on it. I just did the
"recommended
> 30,000 miles spark plug replacement".
> I still feel lucky if once in 50 fill ups I get 17 mpg.
> 4 cylinder, auto, sticker rated at 22/27 mpg.
> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.
>
>
>

"TOM KAN PA" > wrote

> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.

My 98 Grand Voyager 3.3 is rated at 21mpg city and 32 mpg highway Canadian
(Imperial). On mostly country road and suburban driving I get around 26-27
mpg Imperial (about 22 U.S.). I don't hot-rod but I don't hold up traffic
either. There seems to be something wrong with either your driving habits or
the condition of your vehicle.

"TOM KAN PA" > wrote

> Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.

My 98 Grand Voyager 3.3 is rated at 21mpg city and 32 mpg highway Canadian
(Imperial). On mostly country road and suburban driving I get around 26-27
mpg Imperial (about 22 U.S.). I don't hot-rod but I don't hold up traffic
either. There seems to be something wrong with either your driving habits or
the condition of your vehicle.

what is the weight for your 98 van. I thing my generation is heavier ,
around 4000 lbs

"Dave Gower" > wrote in message
...
>
> "TOM KAN PA" > wrote
>
> > Bull****!!! I never came close to achieving these mile per gallons.
>
> My 98 Grand Voyager 3.3 is rated at 21mpg city and 32 mpg highway Canadian
> (Imperial). On mostly country road and suburban driving I get around 26-27
> mpg Imperial (about 22 U.S.). I don't hot-rod but I don't hold up traffic
> either. There seems to be something wrong with either your driving habits
or
> the condition of your vehicle.
>
>