American vs German Quality

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
>
> > I don't know what fleet managers you were talking too, but everyone else
> > has had good luck with CVs.
>
> Everyone else? Are ya *sure* about that? Or are you only sure about the
> three you know about?

No, I mean everyone else. Check any reliability records on the CV. It scores
quite high.

> I really have no particularly compelling interest in
> convincing you that many versions of the Ford Modular V8 are garbage.

Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage? You still think that, don't you?

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
>
> > I don't know what fleet managers you were talking too, but everyone else
> > has had good luck with CVs.
>
> Everyone else? Are ya *sure* about that? Or are you only sure about the
> three you know about?

No, I mean everyone else. Check any reliability records on the CV. It scores
quite high.

> I really have no particularly compelling interest in
> convincing you that many versions of the Ford Modular V8 are garbage.

Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage? You still think that, don't you?

Ritz wrote:


>>
>> Because I don't care whether you believe me or not.
>
>
> Translation: You don't have anything to cite.
>
> Then you'll pardon my disbelief.
>

Just because there isn't a handy citation somewhere in the magical world
of cyberspace doesn't mean that a statement is untrue. I have also
talked to some fleet maintainers who found that in the early years of
the Modular they need to keep a strangely large supply of important
parts on hand compared to the previous Ford engines and compared to GM
and Chrysler engines.

Ritz wrote:


>>
>> Because I don't care whether you believe me or not.
>
>
> Translation: You don't have anything to cite.
>
> Then you'll pardon my disbelief.
>

Just because there isn't a handy citation somewhere in the magical world
of cyberspace doesn't mean that a statement is untrue. I have also
talked to some fleet maintainers who found that in the early years of
the Modular they need to keep a strangely large supply of important
parts on hand compared to the previous Ford engines and compared to GM
and Chrysler engines.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:

> Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
> 3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage?

Right. I truly don't care what you think.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:

> Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
> 3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage?

Right. I truly don't care what you think.

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
>
>
>>Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
>>3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage?
>
>
> Right. I truly don't care what you think.

Daniel, why do you have to be such a prick? You make a statement and
people ask you what you base that statement on. Your reply is
basically, kiss my ass, I don't care what you think. So I'm inclined to
discount your opinion entirely.

If I want to know about lightbulbs, I'll gladly defer to your
experience, but I'm certainly not going to take anything you say about
the Ford Modular V8 or 3.0L V6 without some shred of independently
verifiable evidence. Your commentary simply doesn't jibe with my day to
day experience with either of those engines.

Granted, this isn't nearly as interesting as your diatribe on gay (or
perhaps not so gay) hollywood legends, but I see a pattern here of you
making assertions without any shred of credible evidence. If you don't
have any evidence, just say so. No need to be a jerk about it.

Cheers,

Daniel J. Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Bill 2 wrote:
>
>
>>Kind of like how you have no compelling interest in convincing me that the
>>3.0L Vulcan engine is garbage?
>
>
> Right. I truly don't care what you think.

Daniel, why do you have to be such a prick? You make a statement and
people ask you what you base that statement on. Your reply is
basically, kiss my ass, I don't care what you think. So I'm inclined to
discount your opinion entirely.

If I want to know about lightbulbs, I'll gladly defer to your
experience, but I'm certainly not going to take anything you say about
the Ford Modular V8 or 3.0L V6 without some shred of independently
verifiable evidence. Your commentary simply doesn't jibe with my day to
day experience with either of those engines.

Granted, this isn't nearly as interesting as your diatribe on gay (or
perhaps not so gay) hollywood legends, but I see a pattern here of you
making assertions without any shred of credible evidence. If you don't
have any evidence, just say so. No need to be a jerk about it.

Cheers,

Steve wrote:

> Ritz wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Because I don't care whether you believe me or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Translation: You don't have anything to cite.
>>
>> Then you'll pardon my disbelief.
>>
>
> Just because there isn't a handy citation somewhere in the magical world
> of cyberspace doesn't mean that a statement is untrue. I have also
> talked to some fleet maintainers who found that in the early years of
> the Modular they need to keep a strangely large supply of important
> parts on hand compared to the previous Ford engines and compared to GM
> and Chrysler engines.
>

Well, that doesn't jibe with my first hand experience. Perhaps you can
convince your "fleet maintainer" to post some thoughts about their
experiences....

Cheers,

Steve wrote:

> Ritz wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Because I don't care whether you believe me or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Translation: You don't have anything to cite.
>>
>> Then you'll pardon my disbelief.
>>
>
> Just because there isn't a handy citation somewhere in the magical world
> of cyberspace doesn't mean that a statement is untrue. I have also
> talked to some fleet maintainers who found that in the early years of
> the Modular they need to keep a strangely large supply of important
> parts on hand compared to the previous Ford engines and compared to GM
> and Chrysler engines.
>

Well, that doesn't jibe with my first hand experience. Perhaps you can
convince your "fleet maintainer" to post some thoughts about their
experiences....

Cheers,