2006 Chrysler 300C LEMON

David wrote:

since the tranny
> and driveshaft are a mercedes item, they are peobably dealing with mercedes
> for technical support. Therefore it probably takes time to figure out.

Its not "a Mercedes item." That particular transmission, while based on
a Mercedes design, is different and is built in Kokomo, Indiana- a
long-time Chrysler transmission factory.

But I agree- this is probably the first time they've seen this complaint
and are wanting to get factory involvement to figure it out (if its not
just a troll as I still suspect somewhat... ;-)

It bothers me a little bit when consumers have a problem, immediately
call the product a "LEMON," and then insist that getting a replacement
is somehow better than getting the original fixed. Fixed is fixed- its a
machine, not a living organism. The fact that its been repaired doesn't
make it somehow inferior to a brand new vehicle that didn't happen to
have the problem from the factory.

Daniel J. Stern wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Angelo D via CarKB.com wrote:
>
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>>I just bought the 06 300C for a price of 44K...It had 38 miles on it and
>>is now in the dealers repair facility.There is an apparent transmission
>>problem with this vehicle which thier diagnostics can't seem to locate.
>>Meantime,I'm driving a dealer supplied Chevy neon from Enterprise that
>>doesn't even have power steering!!
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> \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 /
> \ \ 1 9 /
> \ 0 \ 10 /
> \ \ TROLL-O-METER /
> \ \ /
> \ \ /
> \___\______________________/
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> | PLEASE |
> | DO NOT |
> | FEED THE |
> | TROLLS |
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more like this, if you ask me:

> +--------------------------------------+
> \ 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 /
> \ 1 9 /
> \ 0 / 10 /
> \ TROLL-O-METER / /
> \ / /
> \ / /
> \___________________/______/
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David wrote:
>> For the money I paid Sarge,,they should have "REPLACED" the vehicle with a
>> completely new one,but.no,,now we have to suffer the aggravation of
>> dealing
>> with a "lemon" and constant trips back and forth to this dealer.
>
>It's a lemon because of the one problem you posted? what are you a @%$^%
>moron!
>
>They are probably having a problem diagnosing it because it has not happened
>before. So if you are the first customer with this problem, what is the
>dealership to do? Wave there magic wand and diagnose it? since the tranny
>and driveshaft are a mercedes item, they are peobably dealing with mercedes
>for technical support. Therefore it probably takes time to figure out.
>Obviously YOU know the problem, So here is an idea. You get your car, and
>you fix it, and then send the bill the DC. They will re-imburse you.
I only see one moron here David~ And thats YOU! You missed the point
altogether..This is a brand new vehicle,get it? How does a dealership deliver
a new vehicle in this condition?At a price of 44K dolars.get it? MORON!


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Steve wrote:
>> I suspect that since he was dealing with Chrysler, it was a chrysler/dodge
>> neon...
>
>I suspect the whole thing is a troll.
Your a troll........Get a life dopey!


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Angelo D via CarKB.com wrote: "For the money I paid Sarge,,they should have
"REPLACED" the vehicle with a
completely new one,but.no,,now we have to suffer the aggravation of dealing
with a "lemon" and constant trips back and forth to this dealer."

They are following the law in regards to lemon law. The dealership is not
going to give you a new vehicle unless require to either under the law or
told to by the Chrysler corporation. Check your state's lemon law. You are
required to have the vehicle repaired 3 times for the same problem.

Direct quote from www.lemonlaw.com

The New Jersey Lemon Law applies to new cars, both purchased and leased,
which suffer a nonconformity; a defect or condition, which substantially
impairs the use, value or safety; that cannot be repaired after three
attempts by an authorized manufacturer's dealership. This nonconformity must
first occur within the first 24 months or 18,000 miles, whichever comes
first. The New Jersey Lemon Law also applies to vehicles that are in the
shop for repair twenty (20) or more calendar days during the first year.

It's important to note that even if your car falls outside of the
limitations established by the Lemon Law, there are still Federal breach of
warranty laws which apply. If your car has an original or extended
manufacturer's warranty and has a problem that can't be fixed after three
repair attempts, chances are we can help you.

Sarge

TomKan wrote:
>You said "No power steering." Power steering is standard equipment on
>both a Neon and a Cavalier.
Sure as hell didn't feel like it Tom.........But,,your probably right!


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General Schvantzkoph wrote:
>> I just bought the 06 300C for a price of 44K...It had 38 miles on it and is
>> now in the dealers repair facility.There is an apparent transmission problem
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>> to date,because this looks like its going to be a legal matter concerning the
>> New Jersey Lemon Law. Will keep you posted..
>
>Lemon laws are stacked in favor of the car companies. My business partner
>had an $75K Audi that was never right. It was in the shop 12 time in 12
>months, they were never able to fix it. The car company is give multiple
>chances to fix the problem. If they can't fix it then you have to go to
>arbitration, you can't sue them and you can't recover your legal costs if
>hire a lawyer so it's either going to cost you a lot in legal fees or in
>time. He ended up taking the loss and trading it in on a Mercedes.
>Mine isn't all wheel general..I have no intentions of taking any losses because of thier errors.I already have a lawyer working on a no commission until resolved status.They could just have easily have taken the vegicle back and gave me a new one and returned the defective vehicle to Chrysler,since they're the ones that manfactured it..
>I hope that you are just unlucky and that there isn't a design problem
>with the 300C AWD (I'm assuming that's what you have since you paid 44K).
>I also just bought the 300C AWD. Mine has been flawless so far but I only
>have 750 miles on it so it's to soon to tell.


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Angelo D wrote:
>>> I just bought the 06 300C for a price of 44K...It had 38 miles on it and is
>>> now in the dealers repair facility.There is an apparent transmission problem
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>>I also just bought the 300C AWD. Mine has been flawless so far but I only
>>have 750 miles on it so it's to soon to tell.
Kepp your fingers crossed general.......


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Steve wrote:
>They should have given you a new car and repaired the problem car and sold
>it at a discount. I feel for you.
>
>Steve I agree Steve..they could have returned it to Chrysler since they're the ones that manfactured the defective vehicle.....
>>>I just bought the 06 300C for a price of 44K...It had 38 miles on it and is
>> now in the dealers repair facility.There is an apparent transmission
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>> the
>> New Jersey Lemon Law. Will keep you posted..


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maxpower wrote:
>> I just bought the 06 300C for a price of 44K...It had 38 miles on it and is
>> now in the dealers repair facility.There is an apparent transmission problem
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> to date,because this looks like its going to be a legal matter concerning the
>> New Jersey Lemon Law. Will keep you posted..
>
>The dealer does not set the guidelines, they have to go by what Chrysler
>tells them they can do, They cant put you in a new car to drive around. And
>the district rep would make all those decisions anyhow. I would not start
>bad mouthing the dealer and raising hell with them if they are trying to do
>everything they can for you because it the long run it will make things
>worse.
>Trust me I understand that you would expect to have a problem free vehicle




>after just purchased it but these things happen. Not just with Chrysler but
>all makes and models







































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>Glenn Beasley
>Chrysler Tech
Dear Mr.Beasley~ I wouldn't expect anything less from Chrysler tech. However,
as I mentioned in earlier posts.I do not hold the "dealer" rsponsible as much
as I do Chrysler.How do you deliver a vehicle to a dealer to sell in this
condition? Where are the quality standards at the factory? This unit should
have been tested before the odometer was connected.Then they would have found
the problem,"BEFOREHAND"...but no,,this way they save on the cost of the unit
being built on the line and let the dealer worry about it.Let the customer
suffer the consequences.Why should the paying public have to "get the bugs
out" of a new design? This is the growing problem in this country.The public
be dammed.I know I won't be around to see it,but,,this country is doomed with
your train of thought,sorry!


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