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ION wont start when cold
I have a 2003 ion. I have owned it just over a year it has close to 30K
miles on it last winter i had problems when it would get cold out the car wouldnt start. When you first try to start it, it acts like a dead batt. It doesnt crank or anything after several attempts to start it will start to crank. I tried starting my car for a hour (with breaks in between trys) Finnaly the car turns over like nothing was ever wrong! After three times of this happening i put it in the shop. They couldnt find anyting wrong with it and actually suggested that i wasnt pushing the clutch in (like i would drive the car for half a year and not push the clutch in) The weather got warm and we didnt have the problem. This morning was very cold and the problem began again my husband tried to start it nothing not even trying to turn over. He tries again and it cranks but doesnt start. Gives it little break 5 mins or so tries to start it, it starts up and shuts right back off. Tries to start it again doesnt even crank gives it another break and it starts right up! The shop cant seem to find a problem nothing is registering on the computer so they say. ( which to me doesnt mean nothing is wrong) I wanted to know if anyone had any suggestions on what could be causing this. The car goes to the shop again tomorrow and i would like to have and idea of what they should at least be checking! Any suggestions would really help sorry about my awful spelling! |
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My brother's 03 ION did the EXACT same thing...the dealer couldn't find
anything wrong with it after multiple attempts at fixing the problem. It did it again 3 weeks ago and he took it back into the dealer and demanded a differant car. He now has an 04 quad coupe....It definitely is a recurring problem with the 03 ION....take it back...demand an upgrade...be adamant and persistant...you will get your way eventually. R. "Christieann" > wrote in message lkaboutautos.com... > I have a 2003 ion. I have owned it just over a year it has close to 30K > miles on it last winter i had problems when it would get cold out the car > wouldnt start. When you first try to start it, it acts like a dead batt. > It doesnt crank or anything after several attempts to start it will start > to crank. I tried starting my car for a hour (with breaks in between > trys) Finnaly the car turns over like nothing was ever wrong! After three > times of this happening i put it in the shop. They couldnt find anyting > wrong with it and actually suggested that i wasnt pushing the clutch in > (like i would drive the car for half a year and not push the clutch in) > The weather got warm and we didnt have the problem. This morning was very > cold and the problem began again my husband tried to start it nothing not > even trying to turn over. He tries again and it cranks but doesnt start. > Gives it little break 5 mins or so tries to start it, it starts up and > shuts right back off. Tries to start it again doesnt even crank gives it > another break and it starts right up! The shop cant seem to find a > problem nothing is registering on the computer so they say. ( which to me > doesnt mean nothing is wrong) I wanted to know if anyone had any > suggestions on what could be causing this. The car goes to the shop again > tomorrow and i would like to have and idea of what they should at least be > checking! Any suggestions would really help sorry about my awful > spelling! > |
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:30:04 -0400, "WTP07" > wrote:
>My brother's 03 ION did the EXACT same thing...the dealer couldn't find >anything wrong with it after multiple attempts at fixing the problem. It >did it again 3 weeks ago and he took it back into the dealer and demanded a >differant car. He now has an 04 quad coupe....It definitely is a recurring >problem with the 03 ION....take it back...demand an upgrade...be adamant and >persistant...you will get your way eventually. > >R. > > > >"Christieann" > wrote in message alkaboutautos.com... >> I have a 2003 ion. I have owned it just over a year it has close to 30K >> miles on it last winter i had problems when it would get cold out the car >> wouldnt start. When you first try to start it, it acts like a dead batt. >> It doesnt crank or anything after several attempts to start it will start >> to crank. I tried starting my car for a hour (with breaks in between >> trys) Finnaly the car turns over like nothing was ever wrong! After three >> times of this happening i put it in the shop. They couldnt find anyting >> wrong with it and actually suggested that i wasnt pushing the clutch in >> (like i would drive the car for half a year and not push the clutch in) >> The weather got warm and we didnt have the problem. This morning was very >> cold and the problem began again my husband tried to start it nothing not >> even trying to turn over. He tries again and it cranks but doesnt start. >> Gives it little break 5 mins or so tries to start it, it starts up and >> shuts right back off. Tries to start it again doesnt even crank gives it >> another break and it starts right up! The shop cant seem to find a >> problem nothing is registering on the computer so they say. ( which to me >> doesnt mean nothing is wrong) I wanted to know if anyone had any >> suggestions on what could be causing this. The car goes to the shop again >> tomorrow and i would like to have and idea of what they should at least be >> checking! Any suggestions would really help sorry about my awful >> spelling! >> > Once had a similar problem - turned out to be an ignition switch with a lubricant that got too viscous at low temperatures. If you turned the switch to the start position and waited long enough, the contacts carrier in the switch would finally move through the lubricant and provide power to the starter. Solution at the time was to use an aftermarket switch with a different lubricant. |
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well i had my car in yesterday and it was the ignition switch i guess they
are now equiping all new ions with a newly designed switch so they dont have this problem unfortunatly since my ion was one of the first it had the old ignition switch in it so if anyone else is having the problem tell the garage to replace the ignition switch with the new one and it should fix it thanks to all |
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"WTP07" > wrote in message ... > My brother's 03 ION did the EXACT same thing...the dealer couldn't find > anything wrong with it after multiple attempts at fixing the problem. It > did it again 3 weeks ago and he took it back into the dealer and demanded a > differant car. He now has an 04 quad coupe....It definitely is a recurring > problem with the 03 ION....take it back...demand an upgrade...be adamant and > persistant...you will get your way eventually. > > R. > > > The first saturn I bought, a used 98 SL2 did exactly the same thing (it was purchased in Feburary, in Montreal, so yeah, it was cold as hell), I had it in and out of the dealers for 2 weeks and they couldnt find a single thing wrong with it, I finally returned the car for another used Saturn which never had the problem (knock on wood). Wurm |
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I have an '03 Ion QC bought it August 18, 2003. 21500Km now.
I live in Saskatchewan and the winters here are FREEZING. I had no problems starting last winter at all. Even when it was not plugged in, it started fine. I hope I don't have any problems this coming winter <knock on wood> http://www.cardomain.com/id/thegecko J "Wurm" > wrote in message ... > > "WTP07" > wrote in message > ... > > My brother's 03 ION did the EXACT same thing...the dealer couldn't find > > anything wrong with it after multiple attempts at fixing the problem. It > > did it again 3 weeks ago and he took it back into the dealer and demanded > a > > differant car. He now has an 04 quad coupe....It definitely is a > recurring > > problem with the 03 ION....take it back...demand an upgrade...be adamant > and > > persistant...you will get your way eventually. > > > > R. > > > > > > > > The first saturn I bought, a used 98 SL2 did exactly the same thing (it was > purchased in Feburary, in Montreal, so yeah, it was cold as hell), I had it > in and out of the dealers for 2 weeks and they couldnt find a single thing > wrong with it, I finally returned the car for another used Saturn which > never had the problem (knock on wood). > > Wurm > > |
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Hi, I'm in the same boat here with my ION. Did you have any resolve
yet? I wonder how long you can have a car and still be able to return it? Christieann wrote: > I have a 2003 ion. I have owned it just over a year it has close to 30K > miles on it last winter i had problems when it would get cold out the car > wouldnt start. When you first try to start it, it acts like a dead batt. > It doesnt crank or anything after several attempts to start it will start > to crank. I tried starting my car for a hour (with breaks in between > trys) Finnaly the car turns over like nothing was ever wrong! After three > times of this happening i put it in the shop. They couldnt find anyting > wrong with it and actually suggested that i wasnt pushing the clutch in > (like i would drive the car for half a year and not push the clutch in) > The weather got warm and we didnt have the problem. This morning was very > cold and the problem began again my husband tried to start it nothing not > even trying to turn over. He tries again and it cranks but doesnt start. > Gives it little break 5 mins or so tries to start it, it starts up and > shuts right back off. Tries to start it again doesnt even crank gives it > another break and it starts right up! The shop cant seem to find a > problem nothing is registering on the computer so they say. ( which to me > doesnt mean nothing is wrong) I wanted to know if anyone had any > suggestions on what could be causing this. The car goes to the shop again > tomorrow and i would like to have and idea of what they should at least be > checking! Any suggestions would really help sorry about my awful > spelling! |
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I am still trying to resolve this issue as well. I had my ignition
replaced back in October. They say they put in a new model. However, last weekend my car did the same thing. It wouldn't start for about 5 to 10 minutes. Once it starts all is well. This time, however, it didn't log any errors. They basically told me to take it home and wait until it "fails" again. I figure, I'll give them one more chance. If it does it again and they can't figure it out I will be extremely disappointed if they don't try and take care of me. I didn't pay full price for a car that starts when it wants to. Also, every time it has happened it was in my garage where the temperature doesn't get below 40 degrees. Andy |
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I had this problem this morning with my 2004 Ion (-2 deg F). After a dozen
attempts (lights on strong but no starter engaging), I made sure vehicle was not in gear, got out so I was able to depress the clutch engage switch with my finger and turn the ignition at the same time. The car fired right off pushing the switch all the way in with the finger. The car is just over a year old and this is the first time I had the problem. The problem did not re-occur that morning. > wrote in message oups.com... > Hi, I'm in the same boat here with my ION. Did you have any resolve > yet? I wonder how long you can have a car and still be able to return > it? > > Christieann wrote: > > I have a 2003 ion. I have owned it just over a year it has close to > 30K > > miles on it last winter i had problems when it would get cold out the > car > > wouldnt start. When you first try to start it, it acts like a dead > batt. > > It doesnt crank or anything after several attempts to start it will > start > > to crank. I tried starting my car for a hour (with breaks in between > > trys) Finnaly the car turns over like nothing was ever wrong! After > three > > times of this happening i put it in the shop. They couldnt find > anyting > > wrong with it and actually suggested that i wasnt pushing the clutch > in > > (like i would drive the car for half a year and not push the clutch > in) > > The weather got warm and we didnt have the problem. This morning was > very > > cold and the problem began again my husband tried to start it nothing > not > > even trying to turn over. He tries again and it cranks but doesnt > start. > > Gives it little break 5 mins or so tries to start it, it starts up > and > > shuts right back off. Tries to start it again doesnt even crank > gives it > > another break and it starts right up! The shop cant seem to find a > > problem nothing is registering on the computer so they say. ( which > to me > > doesnt mean nothing is wrong) I wanted to know if anyone had any > > suggestions on what could be causing this. The car goes to the shop > again > > tomorrow and i would like to have and idea of what they should at > least be > > checking! Any suggestions would really help sorry about my awful > > spelling! > |
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Ok. I just had the same problem again this morning and I have had my
ignition replace back in October. My car wouldn't start, but after six minutes it started just fine. Fortunately I had my camera so I took some video of the problem and then took my car and the video into Saturn. http://www.lust4sun.com/ftp/video/satrun.wmv Once they saw the video they said it was the ignition and that they were going to replace it again. I took it in a couple of weeks ago when it wouldn't start but they said that it didn't log any errors so they couldn't replace anything. So I figured this video would be the next best thing. We'll see if this new ignition works any better. Also note that this problem is occurring here in Las Vegas where the weather is fairly warm and while my car is in a garage. So it doesn't seem to take much for the problem to occur. Andy Cooper 2003 Saturn ION QC Las Vegas, NV |
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