Tire Experience, GoodYear and Bridgestone

Jim
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Bill
"Jim Warman" > wrote in message
news:tcwDg.2891$395.2384@edtnps90...
> Michelin LTX M/S... accept no substitutes. I have had these on many
> vehicles and never looked back... good performance, good treadwear, good
> everything.
>
> My 1994 beater truck is coming due for tires.... this rusty old piece of
> crap (that I wont allow my loving bride to drive) will get my tire of
> choice....
>
> To paraphrase the woodworking newsgroup - "buy the best and only cry
> once...".
>
> "Big Shoe" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I am soon going to purchase a set of new tires for my '05 Limited as
>> the original BFG's are getting so noisy that I don't want to listen to
>> it any more. And yes, they have been rotated regularly and front end
>> alignment checked.
>>
>> My Ford dealer recommends the GoodYear Fortera Triple Tred over the
>> Michelin Cross Terrain and LTX M/S. Tire rack ratings show the
>> GoodYear as superior to the others, but also show the Bridgestone
>> Dueler H/L Alenza with very good ratings, better than Michelin. My
>> personal experience with the LTX M/S has been very good, don't have
>> any experience with the Cross Terrain.
>>
>> My question is - can anyone comment about their experience with the
>> GoodYear or the Bridgestone?
>
>

Tire cupping is caused from not enough balancing, improper alignment, worn
shocks, etc. I know this. I have credentials from Goodyear.
One thing to keep in mind... Any miles over 40k on an SUV or Light Truck on
one set of tires are "bonus" miles. Tire salespersons will sell you 70k
mile tires or whatever the warranty you want - however, few tires will last
that long. The catch on the mileage warranty is this... Let's say you
bought 70k mile tires. But they wore out in under 50k miles. Guess what?
You pay for the tread you used. If you used 90% of the tread (doesn't
matter how many miles), you will pay 90% of the price of the new
replacement. Thats 90% of the RETAIL price of the new. Not the great deal
you got because you shopped and compared and played this dealer against that
dealer. You may have gotten tires at say $50 per, but "retail" could be $80
per. You do the math...

Anyways, I bought some Goodyear Wrangler MTR's 20k miles ago. I purchased
the "Road hazard warranty" (which I always recommend) because it included
free lifetime rotation AND balancing. I use it. Every 3k, I have these
mudders rotated and balanced. No vibration, no cupping. Major road noise
due to the big lugs but that's what ya get with mudder tires. The tires,
brand new have 19/32 of tread on them. After 20k, (because I take care of
this small investment) I am only down to 17/32nds of tread. Phenomenal
considering the type of tire.

Hope this helps.


"Big Shoe" > wrote in message
...
>I took a close look at the original Goodrich tires, which have gotten
> very noisy. What I had not noticed before is that many of the blocks
> in the tread are worn to a different height than the surrounding
> blocks. This has to be defective materials and workmanship. No way
> could that happen from balance or alignment problems. Trouble is if I
> ask for an adjustment I have to buy new Goodrich tires, so will not do
> that.
>
> Thanks for the input, I will most likely go with the LTX M/S because
> of my good experience in the past and because of your recommendations.
>
> On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 07:52:37 -0500, Alan wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:45:57 -0500, Alan wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:57:40 -0400, "Herb Kauhry" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I got Michelin Cross Terrain via the Firestone debacle. At 40K miles
>>>>the
>>>>firestones were worn out. The Mich'es are still going at 55K. Quiet,
>>>>good
>>>>feel and excellent in snow. They're my choice for the next time I buy
>>>>tires.
>>>
>>>I got the Michelins as the exchange for the original Firestones.
>>>
>>>They're basically OK, although the speedometer reads 3 mph faster,
>>>now. And, sometimes I hear a background jet overhead, and then
>>>realize that is the tires. It's not really noisy, but it is there
>>>on certain concrete pavements when driving at highway speeds.
>>>
>>>Alan
>>
>>Actually, the Michelins were Michelin LTX M/S, the same ones Jim
>>Warman recommends. . .
>>
>>Alan