hitch ball options?

On Aug 28, 3:43*pm, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 03:22 PM, gpsman wrote:
>
> > Your original premise is childishly farcical:
>
> > 1. You want to buy "all the various hitch balls that I may need".
>
> yeah, there's what, three different sizes?

Close. There's at least 6. And different shank diameters and...

Why am I telling you this? You're the trailer towing expert.

> > 2. You want to save money.
>
> Yup. *Hitch ball at store - $20 or more. *Hitch ball online - $5-$10 and
> free shipping.

Straw man.
http://www.uhaul.com/MovingSupplies/...-Balls?mid=424

> > A. *Few need "all the various hitch balls" for trailers they don't
> > own.
>
> > B. Not spending money on things you don't need is the surest way to
> > save money.
>
> By that reasoning, I shouldn't spend money on anything but food and
> water. *Or perhaps I could save even more money by drinking out of a creek.

Straw man. Reductio ad ridiculum.

Perhaps, if you're stupid enough to extrapolate from superfluous hitch
balls to the basic necessities for life.

> > Sounds to me more like you intend to run around stealing trailers.
>
> sounds to me like you've never planned ahead.

Of course I haven't. All I've achieved is due to dumb luck.

>*Or, you like spending
> LOTS of money and if you do find yourself needing to pull a trailer you
> just take your truck (assuming that you can afford one) into a shop, and
> pay someone to select and install everything. *Yeah, that's economy
> right there, and also requires some amount of trust that the person
> behind the counter will choose the best products for your use.

Straw man. I can choose and install a trailer ball.

> Also, some of us just like to be able to "take care of it" whatever "it"
> may be. *That's why we have roll cabinets full of tools, pickup trucks,
> and such like.

Straw man. A hitch ball is of singular usefulness.

> But then again, I do think that a counter droid at U-haul is likely
> smarter than you, so in your case, paying someone to take care of it for
> you is a good plan.

Some people put thought and effort into responding to Usenet queries.
Stop wasting their time with your imaginary needs.
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- gpsman

On 08/28/2011 09:22 PM, gpsman wrote:
> On Aug 28, 3:43�pm, Nate > wrote:
>> On 08/28/2011 03:22 PM, gpsman wrote:
>>
>>> Your original premise is childishly farcical:
>>
>>> 1. You want to buy "all the various hitch balls that I may need".
>>
>> yeah, there's what, three different sizes?
>
> Close. There's at least 6. And different shank diameters and...
>
> Why am I telling you this? You're the trailer towing expert.
>
>>> 2. You want to save money.
>>
>> Yup. �Hitch ball at store - $20 or more. �Hitch ball online - $5-$10 and
>> free shipping.
>
> Straw man.
> http://www.uhaul.com/MovingSupplies/...-Balls?mid=424
>
>>> A. �Few need "all the various hitch balls" for trailers they don't
>>> own.
>>
>>> B. Not spending money on things you don't need is the surest way to
>>> save money.
>>
>> By that reasoning, I shouldn't spend money on anything but food and
>> water. �Or perhaps I could save even more money by drinking out of a creek.
>
> Straw man. Reductio ad ridiculum.
>
> Perhaps, if you're stupid enough to extrapolate from superfluous hitch
> balls to the basic necessities for life.
>
>>> Sounds to me more like you intend to run around stealing trailers.
>>
>> sounds to me like you've never planned ahead.
>
> Of course I haven't. All I've achieved is due to dumb luck.
>
>> �Or, you like spending
>> LOTS of money and if you do find yourself needing to pull a trailer you
>> just take your truck (assuming that you can afford one) into a shop, and
>> pay someone to select and install everything. �Yeah, that's economy
>> right there, and also requires some amount of trust that the person
>> behind the counter will choose the best products for your use.
>
> Straw man. I can choose and install a trailer ball.
>
>> Also, some of us just like to be able to "take care of it" whatever "it"
>> may be. �That's why we have roll cabinets full of tools, pickup trucks,
>> and such like.
>
> Straw man. A hitch ball is of singular usefulness.
>
>> But then again, I do think that a counter droid at U-haul is likely
>> smarter than you, so in your case, paying someone to take care of it for
>> you is a good plan.
>
> Some people put thought and effort into responding to Usenet queries.
> Stop wasting their time with your imaginary needs.
> -----
>
> - gpsman


of all the people here on this group, with their different personality
disorders and agendas, nate is one of the most harmless. so, you trying
to pick a fight with him is pretty ****ing chicken ****. pick on
someone on your own level of dysfunction of just ****ing can it.


--
nomina rutrum rutrum

On Aug 29, 1:08*am, jim beam > wrote:
> On 08/28/2011 09:22 PM, gpsman wrote:
>
> > Some people put thought and effort into responding to Usenet queries.
> > Stop wasting their time with your imaginary needs.
>
> of all the people here on this group, with their different personality
> disorders and agendas, nate is one of the most harmless.

I'd ask you to tell that to the members of the groups he has spent 10
years helping a maniacal crossposting idiot destroy, but they're all
long gone.
http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...MOqJoqdK4hA-xw

I don't think you know Nate like I know Nate.

> *so, you trying
> to pick a fight with him is pretty ****ing chicken ****. *pick on
> someone on your own level of dysfunction of just ****ing can it.

Don't try to paint this lying maggot as a victim, unless it is as a
professional victim of his own stupidity:

From: Nathan Nagel
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 02:14:57 GMT

"He proceeded to write me a fix-it ticket for a cracked windshield (it
*was* cracked, it had just happened, and the crack was entirely below
my line of sight, maybe 1" from the bottom of the windshield,
max.)...."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....?hl=3Den&dmod=
e=3Dsource

From: Nathan Nagel
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:15:51 GMT

"...then noticed the crack about 1" from the bottom of my windshield
(it had cracked from the cold during a trip to VT the week before.)"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.l.../90d8e5752d4b=
36df?hl=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

From: "Nathan J. Nagel"
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 22:41:55 GMT

"...the cop just used that as an excuse to pull me over) and a cracked
windshield, which really was badly cracked..."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.l.../f06ae6af29cd=
c2b4?hl=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

Nate is an unabashed liar:

From: "Nathan J. Nagel"
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:05:25 -0400

"I've been wearing prescription glasses since fourth grade..."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...79de3461a2?hl=
=3Den&dmode=3Dsource

From: Nathan Nagel
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:59:55 GMT

"I'm -2.5 on one eye and -2.25 on the other, can't see a bleedin'
thing without my glasses."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.t...90a?hl=3Den&d=
mode=3Dsource

From: "Nathan J. Nagel"
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:46:27 GMT

"FYI I just had a complete vision exam not 6 months ago and passed
with flying colors."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...?hl=3Den&dmod=
e=3Dsource

Here, he attempts to defend that lie by asserting that the 30 seconds
standing at the DMV counter constitutes a "complete vision exam":

From: N8N >
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 06:38:17 -0700 (PDT)

"Obviously I was wearing my glasses when I took the exam,
otherwise I wouldn't have a driver's license, dip****."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...n&dmode=source

Even one as lazy of thought and deed as Nate can solve his own problem
that you seem to think he has by simply shutting the **** up.

If you want to waste your time entertaining the nitwit, be my guest.
I will continue to kick the **** out of him for my amusement and I
will thank you for not implying I'm beating up a retard, though the
error is perfectly understandable.
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- gpsman

On 08/29/2011 06:47 AM, gpsman wrote:
<snip crap>
> I will continue to kick the **** out of him for my amusement and I

masturbation is not a societal problem until some creepy dude makes it
public. watching you utter the above is watching a creepy dude with a
serious dysfunction. go back in the house and stay away from people
that don't need your kind of "attention".


--
nomina rutrum rutrum

On Aug 29, 11:53*am, jim beam > wrote:
> On 08/29/2011 06:47 AM, gpsman wrote:
> <snip crap>
>
> > I will continue to kick the **** out of him for my amusement and I
>
> masturbation is not a societal problem until some creepy dude makes it
> public. *watching you utter the above is watching a creepy dude with a
> serious dysfunction. *go back in the house and stay away from people
> that don't need your kind of "attention".

Thanks, netkop.

Don't like what I write, make use of your kill file.
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- gpsman

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:36:16 -0400, Nate Nagel >
wrote:

>
>No idea. Was going to get an adjustable ball mount, because this is one
>of those things where I don't actually *own* a trailer, can't see myself
>towing more than once a year, but would like to have everything together
>so that I don't have to run all around town and pay full retail for
>everything when I actually do have to do it. (online prices for this
>stuff are about 25% store retail, it seems.) Also I will not have this

As readers in other groups (including you :-) ) might know, I care
about every percentage too, and I try to plan ahead also, but otoh
buying more than one needs will quickly eat up the 25% one saves by
buying where it's cheap.

But what I meant to post aobut is to not carry all this stuff with you
all the time. It weighs a lot, and the cost of gas in a few years may
equial the cost of the drrawbars, etc.

Nate,
I was in Walmart yesterday, and saw a hitch that can carry
two balls of your choice. This is a receiver type hitch so
that the bar can be removed if desired.

The level of the ball can be adjusted widely. Didnt check the price, but I
might consider it if I were looking for a lot of adaptability.

"hls" > wrote in message
news
> Nate,
> I was in Walmart yesterday, and saw a hitch that can carry
> two balls of your choice. This is a receiver type hitch so
> that the bar can be removed if desired.
>
> The level of the ball can be adjusted widely. Didnt check the price, but
> I might consider it if I were looking for a lot of adaptability.


That hitch, by the way, is rated 13,000 pounds, costs US$250