cruise control trouble shooting

Hi all,

I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.

Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not working.
found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged it in
(from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.

can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site with the
info?

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

No body wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
>
> Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not working.
> found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged it in
> (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
>
> can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site with the
> info?
>
> Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
pedal is not too uncommon either.

JazzMan
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Easy to get to? any special tools?


"JazzMan" > wrote in message
...
> No body wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> >
> > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not working.
> > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged it in
> > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> >
> > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site with
the
> > info?
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
>
> Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> pedal is not too uncommon either.
>
> JazzMan
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Get a known-good turn signal stalk and plug
it into the connector under the dash after
unplugging the one that's there already. Drape
the stalk over the column and go for a drive.
Use the second stalk's controls to see if you get
cruise. If so, then you've found the problem. On
installing, I've found that about half the time I
can cut and use the old stalk wire to pull the
new stalk wire down through the column. The other
half of the time I end up having to disassemble
the column partially to route the wire.

Before getting that far into the thought process,
plug in a spare first to see if that's the real
problem.

The switches on the pedal are easy to get to.

JazzMan

No body wrote:
>
> Easy to get to? any special tools?
>
> "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > No body wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> > >
> > > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not working.
> > > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged it in
> > > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> > >
> > > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site with
> the
> > > info?
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> >
> > Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> > inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> > pedal is not too uncommon either.

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can I just short out the 2 wires to kick it in?

Where are they under the dash? color? Thx


"JazzMan" > wrote in message
...
> Get a known-good turn signal stalk and plug
> it into the connector under the dash after
> unplugging the one that's there already. Drape
> the stalk over the column and go for a drive.
> Use the second stalk's controls to see if you get
> cruise. If so, then you've found the problem. On
> installing, I've found that about half the time I
> can cut and use the old stalk wire to pull the
> new stalk wire down through the column. The other
> half of the time I end up having to disassemble
> the column partially to route the wire.
>
> Before getting that far into the thought process,
> plug in a spare first to see if that's the real
> problem.
>
> The switches on the pedal are easy to get to.
>
> JazzMan
>
> No body wrote:
> >
> > Easy to get to? any special tools?
> >
> > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > No body wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> > > >
> > > > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not
working.
> > > > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged
it in
> > > > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> > > >
> > > > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site
with
> > the
> > > > info?
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> > >
> > > Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> > > inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> > > pedal is not too uncommon either.
>
> --
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> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
> ************************************************** ********

It doesn't work that way. The functions in the
stalk include turning the cruise on, setting
accel and setting decel. The shape of the
connector is such that it would be difficult
or impossible to just "short" the various
terminals together to activate and work the
cruise.

JazzMan

No body wrote:
>
> can I just short out the 2 wires to kick it in?
>
> Where are they under the dash? color? Thx
>
> "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Get a known-good turn signal stalk and plug
> > it into the connector under the dash after
> > unplugging the one that's there already. Drape
> > the stalk over the column and go for a drive.
> > Use the second stalk's controls to see if you get
> > cruise. If so, then you've found the problem. On
> > installing, I've found that about half the time I
> > can cut and use the old stalk wire to pull the
> > new stalk wire down through the column. The other
> > half of the time I end up having to disassemble
> > the column partially to route the wire.
> >
> > Before getting that far into the thought process,
> > plug in a spare first to see if that's the real
> > problem.
> >
> > The switches on the pedal are easy to get to.
> >
> > JazzMan
> >
> > No body wrote:
> > >
> > > Easy to get to? any special tools?
> > >
> > > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > No body wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not
> working.
> > > > > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and plugged
> it in
> > > > > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> > > > >
> > > > > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web site
> with
> > > the
> > > > > info?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> > > >
> > > > Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> > > > inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> > > > pedal is not too uncommon either.
> >

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Ok.

Well, never having done this before, where does the stalk plug into? You
mentioned under the dash...

Thx

"JazzMan" > wrote in message
...
> It doesn't work that way. The functions in the
> stalk include turning the cruise on, setting
> accel and setting decel. The shape of the
> connector is such that it would be difficult
> or impossible to just "short" the various
> terminals together to activate and work the
> cruise.
>
> JazzMan
>
> No body wrote:
> >
> > can I just short out the 2 wires to kick it in?
> >
> > Where are they under the dash? color? Thx
> >
> > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Get a known-good turn signal stalk and plug
> > > it into the connector under the dash after
> > > unplugging the one that's there already. Drape
> > > the stalk over the column and go for a drive.
> > > Use the second stalk's controls to see if you get
> > > cruise. If so, then you've found the problem. On
> > > installing, I've found that about half the time I
> > > can cut and use the old stalk wire to pull the
> > > new stalk wire down through the column. The other
> > > half of the time I end up having to disassemble
> > > the column partially to route the wire.
> > >
> > > Before getting that far into the thought process,
> > > plug in a spare first to see if that's the real
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > The switches on the pedal are easy to get to.
> > >
> > > JazzMan
> > >
> > > No body wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Easy to get to? any special tools?
> > > >
> > > > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > No body wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not
> > working.
> > > > > > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and
plugged
> > it in
> > > > > > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web
site
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > info?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> > > > > inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> > > > > pedal is not too uncommon either.
> > >
>
> --
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> supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to
> live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry
> ************************************************** ********

Here's a schematic for the '88 Fiero, the stalk
part of it should be the same as yours. What may
be different is the control module function is
probably built into the ECM. Look for a black
wire coming from the steering column and follow
that to the connector which should look like the
picture he

http://web2.airmail.net/jsavage1/for...talk_schematic

JazzMan

No body wrote:
>
> Ok.
>
> Well, never having done this before, where does the stalk plug into? You
> mentioned under the dash...
>
> Thx
>
> "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > It doesn't work that way. The functions in the
> > stalk include turning the cruise on, setting
> > accel and setting decel. The shape of the
> > connector is such that it would be difficult
> > or impossible to just "short" the various
> > terminals together to activate and work the
> > cruise.
> >
> > JazzMan
> >
> > No body wrote:
> > >
> > > can I just short out the 2 wires to kick it in?
> > >
> > > Where are they under the dash? color? Thx
> > >
> > > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Get a known-good turn signal stalk and plug
> > > > it into the connector under the dash after
> > > > unplugging the one that's there already. Drape
> > > > the stalk over the column and go for a drive.
> > > > Use the second stalk's controls to see if you get
> > > > cruise. If so, then you've found the problem. On
> > > > installing, I've found that about half the time I
> > > > can cut and use the old stalk wire to pull the
> > > > new stalk wire down through the column. The other
> > > > half of the time I end up having to disassemble
> > > > the column partially to route the wire.
> > > >
> > > > Before getting that far into the thought process,
> > > > plug in a spare first to see if that's the real
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > The switches on the pedal are easy to get to.
> > > >
> > > > JazzMan
> > > >
> > > > No body wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy to get to? any special tools?
> > > > >
> > > > > "JazzMan" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > No body wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a 90 burb w/ 350 r1500.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bought the truck used a couple of years ago. the cruise was not
> > > working.
> > > > > > > found that the vacuum ball was cracked. finaly got one and
> plugged
> > > it in
> > > > > > > (from a ford) and went for a drive. hit the button and nadda.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > can somebody help with the trouble shooting or is there a web
> site
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > info?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appriciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Most common problem I've seen is one or more bad microswitches
> > > > > > inside the turn signal stalk. A bad switch on the brake
> > > > > > pedal is not too uncommon either.
> > > >
> >

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