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DougW wrote:
> montanajeeper did pass the time by typing: > >>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my >>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if >>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the >>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about >>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth >>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks. > > > IMHO, a waste of money. > Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding > addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee. > Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you > could do yourself for $30 or less. > > As for waxing, that's pure bull****. The dealer should detail > your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean > it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the > paint before you can. > Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until the paint has outgassed for a few weeks. Regards, DAve |
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I used this stuff inside and out, did my entire tub, undercoated my
undercarriage and used POR15 inside my doors and window frame. http://www.herculiner.com/ I put 3 coats in the tub and two coats underneath it costs around $150.00 I did not use the rollers or stuff that came with the kit I used a stenciling brush which worked better. Just follow the directions on prep if you don't you will regret it. It took me a whole weekend plus Monday after work to put everything back together. I get a lot of complements on the job I even did the door sills it also helps insulate and reduce road noise. I removed all the carpeting out of the Sahara which really works out well. When I was in the USCG I did the same thing with a vinyl paint we used on buoys inside and out when I sold the CJ 20 years later no rust. Maintenance and being anal are the keys for a long life in any vehicle. I had a 1973 Toyota PU that I bought new and when I sold it 22 years later with 500,000 miles on it no rust (buoy paint) and the engine only burned 1 qt of oil between changes. HarryS "Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message ... > "twaldron" > wrote in message > m... >> waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP. > > i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge > you $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably. > >> As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself. > > ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would > make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub. > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > |
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Sandman.. drive North my boy.. Visit the Wilds of Canada and while your here
go visit either a Rust Check shop or Krown. I cant speak for Krown but Rust Check carries their own warranty on rust through for new cars and NO it doesn't void the manufactures. Your Jeep might cost you about $115-145 Cdn due to its new and never been done before.. they drill holes (yes holes) in your doors, lower pillars and rockers if the factory hasn't. The Gent I use here in Ontario has a big contract with two cities for their fire departments, the police contract, local utilities, a local Ford dealer sends customers there too and every Dec. 6 he does Santa's ride this year it was a nice new 05 stang (local dealer supplied it providing it got sprayed for free). http://www.rustcheck.com/ http://www.krown.com/ Snow... > wrote in message ups.com... > my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my > paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if > i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the > entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about > the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth > doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks. > > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > |
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I used this stuff inside and out, did my entire tub, undercoated my
undercarriage and used POR15 inside my doors and window frame. http://www.herculiner.com/ I put 3 coats in the tub and two coats underneath it costs around $150.00 I did not use the rollers or stuff that came with the kit I used a stenciling brush which worked better. Just follow the directions on prep if you don't you will regret it. It took me a whole weekend plus Monday after work to put everything back together. I get a lot of complements on the job I even did the door sills it also helps insulate and reduce road noise. I removed all the carpeting out of the Sahara which really works out well. When I was in the USCG I did the same thing with a vinyl paint we used on buoys inside and out when I sold the CJ 20 years later no rust. Maintenance and being anal are the keys for a long life in any vehicle. I had a 1973 Toyota PU that I bought new and when I sold it 22 years later with 500,000 miles on it no rust (buoy paint) and the engine only burned 1 qt of oil between changes. HarryS "Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message ... > "twaldron" > wrote in message > m... >> waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP. > > i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge > you $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably. > >> As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself. > > ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would > make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub. > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > |
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Sure it is. They just don't want you to think so and they get to charge
you more money. Nathan W. Collier wrote: > "twaldron" > wrote in message >>waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP. > > > i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you > $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
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If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet
metal is zinc'd at the factory. Nathan W. Collier wrote: > "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message > ... > >>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will >>see salted roads all winter > > > im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out > dirt and gravel. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
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"twaldron" > wrote in message
... > If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal > is zinc'd at the factory. hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me if i wanted it. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 06:56:57 UTC DaveW >
wrote: > DougW wrote: > > > montanajeeper did pass the time by typing: > > > >>my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my > >>paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if > >>i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the > >>entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about > >>the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth > >>doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks. > > > > > > IMHO, a waste of money. > > Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding > > addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee. > > Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you > > could do yourself for $30 or less. > > > > As for waxing, that's pure bull****. The dealer should detail > > your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean > > it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the > > paint before you can. > > > > > Undercoating I can understand, though I'm certainly not sure that it is > a good deal, as priced. Waxing should be left until the vehicle is a few > months old. Ask any auto painter and they will tell you not to wax until > the paint has outgassed for a few weeks. By the time he finnaly gets it delivered to West Nowhere (Billings), the paint will have had time to outgas form the sound of it <g>. Nate, you still local to Billings? Wife says we have to run up there soon - grandkids need spoiling. -- Will Honea |
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Nathan W. Collier proclaimed:
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message > ... > >>keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will >>see salted roads all winter > > > im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out > dirt and gravel. > > > >>skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month >>in winter. > > > definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body > panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very > reason. > I'd check with any local undercoating shops in the area for what they charge and what they use. Some folks prefer the waxy style, some the more tacky tar style. |
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In that case...save your money for the stuff you are really going to want...
"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message ... > "twaldron" > wrote in message > ... >> If they don't salt, why would you need the undercoating? Your sheet metal >> is zinc'd at the factory. > > hell i dunno....i never gave it a any thought before the dealer asked me > if i wanted it. > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com > |
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