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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:02:27 -0500, "tech27"
> wrote: > >"round Midnight" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:26:33 -0500, "tech27" >> > wrote: > >Okay, I suppose I was a little snotty, but while I completely accept that >anyone is welcome to express opinions, it is a little worrisome when the >"opinions" are not in keeping with facts. I won't bore you with examples, >but IIRC some of your opinions were not well founded. That's all I wanted to >point out, because the OP would be mislead it he/she took them as fact. > >In my opinion, the world is indeed flat........." tech27 Your response would appear to be an apology for your bashing, so I will assume it is and graciously accept it. However, the fact remains that in six posts on this thread, you have yet to provide any information that would be useful to the OP in making his decision. You have stated that you disagree with me and that my post is not in keeping with the facts. You don't want to "bore me with examples", but please do so. I can assure you that I will not be bored. I would like to hear your opinions AND why you believe them to be true. Maybe you're right and I am wrong. Maybe we're both right. Maybe we're both wrong. Maybe I'm right and you're wrong. But just saying that I am wrong without providing any information to back up your claim is of no use to anyone, especially the OP. 'round Midnight Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:02:27 -0500, "tech27"
> wrote: > >"round Midnight" > wrote in message .. . >> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:26:33 -0500, "tech27" >> > wrote: > >Okay, I suppose I was a little snotty, but while I completely accept that >anyone is welcome to express opinions, it is a little worrisome when the >"opinions" are not in keeping with facts. I won't bore you with examples, >but IIRC some of your opinions were not well founded. That's all I wanted to >point out, because the OP would be mislead it he/she took them as fact. > >In my opinion, the world is indeed flat........." tech27 Your response would appear to be an apology for your bashing, so I will assume it is and graciously accept it. However, the fact remains that in six posts on this thread, you have yet to provide any information that would be useful to the OP in making his decision. You have stated that you disagree with me and that my post is not in keeping with the facts. You don't want to "bore me with examples", but please do so. I can assure you that I will not be bored. I would like to hear your opinions AND why you believe them to be true. Maybe you're right and I am wrong. Maybe we're both right. Maybe we're both wrong. Maybe I'm right and you're wrong. But just saying that I am wrong without providing any information to back up your claim is of no use to anyone, especially the OP. 'round Midnight |
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"round Midnight" > wrote in message ... >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 23:26:33 -0500, "tech27" >>> > wrote: >> >>Okay, I suppose I was a little snotty, but while I completely accept that >>anyone is welcome to express opinions, it is a little worrisome when the >>"opinions" are not in keeping with facts. I won't bore you with examples, >>but IIRC some of your opinions were not well founded. That's all I wanted >>to >>point out, because the OP would be mislead it he/she took them as fact. >> >>In my opinion, the world is indeed flat........." > > tech27 > > Your response would appear to be an apology for your bashing, so I > will assume it is and graciously accept it. However, the fact remains > that in six posts on this thread, you have yet to provide any > information that would be useful to the OP in making his decision. That is correct. I don't know enough about "the package" to comment. It was in following the thread that I came upon your post and responded to what you said. You > have stated that you disagree with me and that my post is not in > keeping with the facts. You don't want to "bore me with examples", but > please do so. I can assure you that I will not be bored. Okay, just one: 3. Cross-drilled brake rotors. IMO, this is mainly a cosmetic thing. The purpose of cross drilling rotors is to reduce heat buildup-a critical issue for aggressive driving and one that is done very often for very good reasons. Some "kids" do it for appearance, and I've even seen cars with drum brakes having "pretend" drilled rotors installed over to, to mimic the look of the real things - which are a performance improvement. I would like > to hear your opinions AND why you believe them to be true. Maybe > you're right and I am wrong. Maybe we're both right. Maybe we're both > wrong. Maybe I'm right and you're wrong. But just saying that I am > wrong without providing any information to back up your claim is of no > use to anyone, especially the OP. > > 'round Midnight There is no need for you to believe me, and I don't really need to quote 3rd party sources to back up what I already know. BUT, just to show you I'm not all bad, here is just one web source's comments: KVR Crossdrilled Rotors Why should you upgrade to cross drilled rotors? Simply stated, the function of any vehicles brake system is to stop the vehicle. This is accomplished by absorbing the kinetic energy stored in the moving vehicle, and converting it into heat. The friction caused by the brake pad rubbing on the rotor is the source of this heat. The more quickly and efficiently that heat can be absorbed and dissipated, the more quickly and efficiently the car will stop. There are several contributing factors to this heat reduction. One of the most common sources of heat is from the gases produced by the bonding agents of the brake pad burning off. Under severe braking, this can actually produce a boundary layer of gas that pushes the pad away from the rotor, which can lead to excessive brake fade. The cross-drilled holes or slots in a rotor provide an escape path for these gasses (de-gassing or out-gassing are common terms), and allow the pad to stay in contact with the rotor. As well as de-gassing, cross drilling or slotting will provide better wet weather braking as water is swept through the holes, or down the slots. A vented rotor can be viewed as an air fan. When in motion, the vents draw air from the center of the rotor outward. This air flow, over an increased internal surface area, effectively dissipates rotor heat. Cross drilling adds to this air flow, as well as providing additional rotor surface cooling. If you want more information do a google on "cross drilled rotors". And do one on the other points I disagreed with. I think you will find that I know of which I speak. While I appreciate that you prefaced your comments with "In my opinion", that doesn't absolve you of anything or give your opinions any weight. While opinions can be subjective (like wrt a painting or movie), you can still have an incorrect or wrong opinion. |
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Hi folks, thanx for the replies. I am not interested in any other
cars, I am buying the M3 for sure. I love the luxury features in sports cars and I previuosly added a Phatnoise mp3 player to my 330 ci which I still own and want to install it in the M3. I will not take this car to the track so I thing it makes sense to get the automatic transmission and 18 inch wheels, 'cause I also like the softer ride. I also liked the idea of upgrading the tires and the brakes instead of the competition package so I will investigate in that. BTW I took the test drive of the SMG (with competition pack.) and I had hard times to achieve a smooth trasmission using all the settings that were available. The salesman looked like he did not have enough experience in the SMG. But the brakes were fabulous?! but then another sales person in the dealership told me he owns one with SMG and he swears that he can achieve smooth transmission using the setting to the middle. Thanks again for your help, and take it easy guys |
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"Vick" > wrote in message ... > Hi folks, thanx for the replies. I am not interested in any other > cars, I am buying the M3 for sure. I love the luxury features in > sports cars and I previuosly added a Phatnoise mp3 player to my 330 ci > which I still own and want to install it in the M3. > > I will not take this car to the track so I thing it makes sense to get > the automatic transmission and 18 inch wheels, 'cause I also like the > softer ride. By automatic, I assume you mean the SMG - or does BMW offer the Steptronic in non U.S. markets? At any rate, enjoy your M3! Tom |
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"Vick" > wrote in message ... > I will not take this car to the track so I thing it makes sense to get > the automatic transmission and 18 inch wheels, 'cause I also like the > softer ride. The 17's will provide a "softer' ride than the 18's. |
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On 3/2/05 11:03 AM, in article , "Bradburn
Fentress" > wrote: > > "Vick" > wrote in message > ... > >> I will not take this car to the track so I thing it makes sense to get >> the automatic transmission and 18 inch wheels, 'cause I also like the >> softer ride. > > The 17's will provide a "softer' ride than the 18's. > M3's don't come with 17's as an option, except for winter tires. |
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"John Stone" > wrote in message ... > On 3/2/05 11:03 AM, in article , "Bradburn > Fentress" > wrote: > >> >> "Vick" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>> I will not take this car to the track so I thing it makes sense to get >>> the automatic transmission and 18 inch wheels, 'cause I also like the >>> softer ride. >> >> The 17's will provide a "softer' ride than the 18's. >> > M3's don't come with 17's as an option, except for winter tires. Mea Culpa, wasn't paying attention and was thinking 330i. |
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