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Old February 25th 05, 11:23 PM
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Default GMC Sonoma Failing CA Smog

My 99 Sonoma - 2.2L, 5-speed - just tanked on new CA smog test. Failed
the NO measurement at 25 mph, which I understand is new, more stringent
test. Max is 527, I measured 876. Passed NO at idle. HC measure 0.0
(pass), CO measured 0.01 (pass).
Anybody got an idea of what I am looking at with this high NO
measurement? Truck feels like its running fine. No "Check Engine"
light ever. New AC platinum plugs a few months ago.
This vehicle doesn't even HAVE an EGR valve, which would be my first
suspect.
I am told that a lot of vehicles are failing on this test.

Thanks

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Old February 27th 05, 02:22 AM
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> wrote in message
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> My 99 Sonoma - 2.2L, 5-speed - just tanked on new CA smog test. Failed
> the NO measurement at 25 mph, which I understand is new, more stringent
> test. Max is 527, I measured 876. Passed NO at idle. HC measure 0.0


> (pass), CO measured 0.01 (pass).


Engine is running HOT -- lean >> perhaps bad gas!




> Anybody got an idea of what I am looking at with this high NO
> measurement? Truck feels like its running fine. No "Check Engine"


Last time you had a (tune-up) service done on that engine, how many miles ago?

Also was it done by a repair facility -- what items were R/R?

I'd scope the ignition system >Spark Plug Gap<

How many miles, what's the odometer read?


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Old March 1st 05, 06:36 PM
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Here's what GM just told me: I took it to big GM dealer early yesterday
a.m.. Sat and waited for emissions guy to get in. He took one look at
previous test results and said, "Oh, you're running 89 octane, aren't
you? (yes, I was) "Run it out, run a full tank of Chevron 93 through
it, bring it back to me when its almost empty. I will test it while you
wait and I guarantee it will pass."
He never even looked at the truck or tested it. He told me, "I don't
have to look at it. There's nothing wrong with that truck." He
explained that -- since '99 and later 2.2 do NOT have an EGR system --
many are doomed to fail new, stricter CA NOx standards at slow speed IF
you take the test on regular (89 octane) gas.

Well, so at least the EGR controversy is settled. It'll take a while
to run a full tank of 93 octane through it. Then I'll take the test
again.

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Old March 5th 05, 01:45 AM
Eric F
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You need to cool down the combustion chamber temp.. run Redline's Water
Wetter through the radiator, that'll usually help out.
Also run a high octane gas, and you should pass just fine.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> My 99 Sonoma - 2.2L, 5-speed - just tanked on new CA smog test. Failed
> the NO measurement at 25 mph, which I understand is new, more stringent
> test. Max is 527, I measured 876. Passed NO at idle. HC measure 0.0
> (pass), CO measured 0.01 (pass).
> Anybody got an idea of what I am looking at with this high NO
> measurement? Truck feels like its running fine. No "Check Engine"
> light ever. New AC platinum plugs a few months ago.
> This vehicle doesn't even HAVE an EGR valve, which would be my first
> suspect.
> I am told that a lot of vehicles are failing on this test.
>
> Thanks
>



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Old March 19th 05, 03:25 PM
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Final chapter on this story: Ran out the regular gas and ran thru two
tanks of 91 octane Chevron per GM advice. Also took it up and down
hills on freeway in 2nd gear at high RPM night before test. Took it
back for re-test yesterday with fingers crossed. Passed w/flying
colors! NOx reduced from around 900 down to 78. There were no codes in
the computer indicating anything else amiss so all I spent was the
extra money for premium gas. Beats the heck out of an $800 cat!
Now...back to regular gas.

 




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