The best driving simulation?

Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
computer game (for PC)?

I'm looking for a game that was developed with attention to actual
physical behavior of cars.

I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
analysis on car physics.

I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
best ones?

Thanks.

"Diet Rich" > wrote in message
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> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
> computer game (for PC)?
>
> I'm looking for a game that was developed with attention to actual
> physical behavior of cars.
>
> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
> analysis on car physics.
>
> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
> best ones?
>
> Thanks.
>

Grand Theft Auto 3

On 22 May 2005 00:48:12 -0700, "Diet Rich" >
wrote:

>Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
>computer game (for PC)?
>

Spy Hunter!

Yeah, baby!

"Diet Rich" > wrote:
| Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
| computer game (for PC)?
|
| I'm looking for a game that was developed with attention to actual
| physical behavior of cars.
|
| I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
| for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
| analysis on car physics.

Need For Speed and most other racing games are designed for
good gameplay, not physical modeling. In spite of such claims
as "improved physics" or "accurate physics", these games stray
so far from realistic calculations that these claims mean nothing.

Commercial good sim engines a
* the older Grand Prix Legends (aka GPL), simulates 1967 F1 cars
* Nascar racing 2003 (NR2K3). Good online racing, plus mods
* EA's F1 Challenge (aka F1C); F1C's core models 1999-2002 F1 cars
* Live For Speed (LFS, www.liveforspeed.com) is an indy project
and is well worth the money.
F1C and N2K3 are especially good for modifications.

For free sims, there are several
* Racer (www.racer.nl) - a labor of love and an excellent
implementation of many aspects of physical modeling. Cars
and tracks are fully customizable and are constantly developed.
* NetKar is a solid simulator, but appears idle w.r.t. development.
* other sims of various quality

Newsgroups:
* rec.autos.simulators (RAS)

Forums:
* www.bhmotorsports.com (Black Hole Motorsports)
* www.rscnet.org (Race Sim Central)

Have fun.