Hard Start Relay...

I have a hrad start relay on ym 71 VW Bug SUpper Beetle. I have it
screwed on the top of the extra luggage compartment as it's has a big
hole (Rusted out). I am about to have a good piece off of another car
welded it. The only place with out putting a whole for the hard start
relay on the top is underneath. But I am worried abut it working loose
and dangling. It will be screwed it but should I be worried about it
coming loose?

Thanks Steven

You should straighten out your wiring to elluminate the relay, or
atleast relocated to the starter where it is supposed to be mounted in
the first place.

Anton

Noice87 wrote:
> I have a hrad start relay on ym 71 VW Bug SUpper Beetle. I have it
> screwed on the top of the extra luggage compartment as it's has a big
> hole (Rusted out). I am about to have a good piece off of another car
> welded it. The only place with out putting a whole for the hard start
> relay on the top is underneath. But I am worried abut it working loose
> and dangling. It will be screwed it but should I be worried about it
> coming loose?
>
> Thanks Steven

I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
Autostick.

THanks Steven

Noice87 kirjoitti:
> I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
> Autostick.
>
> THanks Steven
>


It is not SUPPOSED to be anywhere!

This is one of my favorite complaints.....

People find a problem with their original wiring after 30-40 years of
(flawless) service, and what do they do? They make the system more
complicated by ADDING another gadget, that
a) does not belong
b) creates a bunch of new opportunities for bad connections
c) dangles around if mounted carelessly
d) keeps them from fixing the original damn problem!!

FIX your wiring, and enjoy another 30+ years of reliable service. Do not
HIDE your problems with band-aid solutions.

Think.

Jan

"Jan" > wrote in message
...
> Noice87 kirjoitti:
> > I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
> > Autostick.
> >
> > THanks Steven
> >
>
>
> It is not SUPPOSED to be anywhere!
>
> This is one of my favorite complaints.....
>
> People find a problem with their original wiring after 30-40 years of
> (flawless) service, and what do they do? They make the system more
> complicated by ADDING another gadget, that
> a) does not belong
> b) creates a bunch of new opportunities for bad connections
> c) dangles around if mounted carelessly
> d) keeps them from fixing the original damn problem!!
>
> FIX your wiring, and enjoy another 30+ years of reliable service. Do not
> HIDE your problems with band-aid solutions.
>
> Think.
>
> Jan

Jan. Nice spiel. I had to add one after I found the immobiliser was nicking
too much battery voltage. I attached it to tunnel next to battery, with
wiring going through large grommet to starter.

James

EXACTLY!!!

1st clean up all the connections and check the wires.
2nd replace the electrical part of the switch


that usually cures the no start problem.

then ditch the relay its just a band-aid to the real problem.

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"Jan" > wrote in message
...
> Noice87 kirjoitti:
>> I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
>> Autostick.
>>
>> THanks Steven
>>
>
>
> It is not SUPPOSED to be anywhere!
>
> This is one of my favorite complaints.....
>
> People find a problem with their original wiring after 30-40 years of
> (flawless) service, and what do they do? They make the system more
> complicated by ADDING another gadget, that
> a) does not belong
> b) creates a bunch of new opportunities for bad connections
> c) dangles around if mounted carelessly
> d) keeps them from fixing the original damn problem!!
>
> FIX your wiring, and enjoy another 30+ years of reliable service. Do not
> HIDE your problems with band-aid solutions.
>
> Think.
>
> Jan

"Jan" > wrote in message
...
> Noice87 kirjoitti:
>> I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
>> Autostick.
>>
>> THanks Steven
>>
>
>
> It is not SUPPOSED to be anywhere!
>
> This is one of my favorite complaints.....
>

hehe...saved me the trouble...

"Juper Wort" > wrote in message
...
>
> Jan. Nice spiel. I had to add one after I found the immobiliser was
nicking
> too much battery voltage. I attached it to tunnel next to battery, with
> wiring going through large grommet to starter.
>
> James
>
>

so you diagnosed the problem, then covered it up?

"dragenwagen" > wrote in message
...
> EXACTLY!!!
>
> 1st clean up all the connections and check the wires.
> 2nd replace the electrical part of the switch
>
>
> that usually cures the no start problem.
>
> then ditch the relay its just a band-aid to the real problem.
>

see...here is the sticking point for me.....i am totally against using a
relay to cover up other problems......the relay isn't the devil in disquise,
it is a decent idea(although in my mind, not needed)....adding a relay to
"protect" the starting circuit i am not against....but covering up a problem
with it, i am against....so folks, if you must have a relay, at least fix
your system before installing it....

while we are on the subject of wiring. I saw an ad on samba for
replacement wiring $89 same thing going on cip1 for ~$120 or something
like that. Looks like the one i used from wiring works, and yes they
are properly color coded, so if you do replace your wiring you can
still use the manual for wiring diagrams. Very decent and can't beat
the price. I've bought from Steve a couple of times, no problems.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie....php?id=136872

So now there is really no excuse for that relay.

All the best,
Anton

Joey Tribiani wrote:
> "Jan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Noice87 kirjoitti:
> >> I thought my Starter was where it was suppose to be. By the way it's a
> >> Autostick.
> >>
> >> THanks Steven
> >>
> >
> >
> > It is not SUPPOSED to be anywhere!
> >
> > This is one of my favorite complaints.....
> >
>
> hehe...saved me the trouble...