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It DRIVES me crazy 2 wrote: > Cory Dunkle wrote: > > I was turning right on a red. Car was coming in the distance, so I > took off > > quickly to get up to speed before he got close. Corner was dry where > I could > > see but right around the corner near the curb was a puddle of water. > So as I > > accelerated out of the turn I was first on dry pavement and > accelerating > > quickly (not real hard, just quick with moderate throttle). Then as I > passed > > over the puddle my right tire spun real quick and then caught again > ont eh > > dry pavement, chirping. Car was straight as an arrow the whole time, > no > > smoke, and not accelerating real hard. > > > > As that was happening a cop was slowing to stop at the light on the > > intersecting road, which had changed while I was turning. Looking in > my > > mirror I saw him turning around and pulled over in a parking lot, > figuring > > he was going to stop me. > > > > He pulled in and asked for my papers. I reached for the glove box, > couldn't > > reach, so removed my seatbelt and then got my papers and handed them > to him. > > He went back to his car, and came back to give me my papers and a > ticket. > > > > He told me he could have wrote me a ticket for careless driving, but > did not > > because that carried points. Instead he gave me a seatbelt ticket. I > asked > > hif he realized that I had not spun my tire on purpose, and as I was > > accelerating hit a puddle, thus the tire chirped as the pavement was > once > > again dry before I let off the gas. He said how is he supposed to > know that, > > in such a tone as to convey that he doesn't believe me. I went on to > tell > > him that if I wanted to spin my tires, there would have been a lot of > noise > > and smoke, not a little chirp as I am driving normally and hit a > puddle. He > > again said how is he supposed to know that, and to take the seatbelt > ticket. > > I told him I was wearing my seatbelt. He said he didn't see it. I > responded > > that regardless of whether or not he saw my seatbelt, it is breaking > no law > > to sit in a parked car without a seatbelt. He then asked if I would > rather > > have the careless driving ticket with points, so I told him sure, if > I was > > driving carelessly then that is the ticket I should get, not a > seatbelt > > ticket when I was wearing my seatbelt as I always do. He then told me > to > > deal with it in court and it wasn't his job to argue with me. I said > okay, > > and asked where the courthouse was and waht the date was. He told me > and > > left. > > > > I then looked at the ticket and say he noted the conditions as dry, I > was > > gonna go take pictures of the intersection where it happened in case > they > > try to give me a careless driving ticket or argue anything like that > when I > > go to court, assuming this cop even shows. As I was driving around > the block > > I saw the cop, so I stopped and asked him why he wrote dry as teh > conditions > > where it had rained earlier in the day and parts of the road were > wet, such > > as around the corner I turned. He told me to leave. I told him I > wanted it > > in writing that conditions were wet that day if he did in fact try to > change > > the ticket to careless driving or bring that up when I went to court > for the > > ticket. He said he didn't see any water on the ground and it looked > dry to > > him (hmm... just like a took my seatbelt off right in front of him > and he > > didn't notice), but he would go check and make a note of it. I asked > why he > > would not give me a copy of such a note. He then asked how old I was > and > > told me to leave, belittling me and disregarding me because of my age > (19, > > will be 20 in a few days). So I left and took pictures on the > intersection. > > > > I'm not sure if I should go file a complaint against the officer or > what. He > > disregarded me, belittled me, didn't believe me and was rude to me > simply > > because I'm 19. I felt very insulted and frustrated. I never spin my > tires > > on the street, much less in rush hour while turning onto a major > street. > > Hell, that big car with a little 302 can't even spin the tires on dry > > pavement since I got my new BFGoodrich Radial T/As, and even when > it's > > raining they grip very nicely and it takes some doing to spin the > tires. > > Regardless, I'm a safe and courteous driver. I don't screw around on > the > > street. Hell, lately on anything but interstate type of highways I do > the > > speed limit or less to be sure I don't have to deal with cops (who do > double > > the limit in residential zones around here and run red lights, when > not on > > call). > > > > In any case, if all this is gonna be is a seatbelt ticket then so be > it. My > > girlfriend was with me and knows I wear my seatbelt every time I get > in the > > car. She also saw me take my seatbelt off right in front of the cop > while I > > was reaching for my papers. I'm half expecting them to disregard her > as a > > witness though, and believe that lying scumbag of a cop. I suppose > I'll find > > out when I go to court. > > > > Bottom line is I'm not paying for a ticket that is for something I'm > not > > guilty of. If I was driving carelessly and endangering anyone with my > > actions when so be it, give me that ticket and if I don't feel I was > driving > > carelessly I'll go to court. If I know I was doing something I > shouldn't > > have been, so be it, I know that and am man enough to accept getting > caught > > doing something I shouldn't have been. The cop knows that chirping my > tire > > on a small puddle I didn't know was there and keeping the car > straight as an > > arrow is not careless or unsafe, nor was it endangering anyone, so he > gives > > me a seatbelt ticket and belittles me, trying to pressure me into > accepting > > it and believe I got off with a good deal so I pay it without > protest. Yeah, > > right. I'm not that much of a pushover. In the past I've gotten a > break like > > that when I actually was driving unsafely. I took the break and paid > the > > ticket, and that was the end of messing around on the street for me. > That > > was a couple years ago. > > > > Anyhow, it just ****es me off that cops do crap like that. I mean > honestly, > > if I was doing anything careless or unsafe give me the points. That's > what > > points are for, to add up and get bad drivers off the road. I'd > rather not > > have a corrupt system and if I actually do something I shouldn't, > take some > > points and so be it. Not this BS like we have where even if you get a > points > > ticket you just go to court and they don't even wanna hear or know > what > > happened, you get in a line and tell them whether or not you will > take their > > deal of a different fine and no points. It's nothing but revenue > collection, > > hence the seatbelt ticket I got. He knows a careless driving ticket > is BS, > > so he gives a seatbelt ticket thinking it makes him look good and > that I'll > > pay it instead of missing work (cops need a certain number of tickets > to be > > put up for promotions, if they don't write enough tickets it's > frowned upon > > and assumed that they are not doing their job). By missing work yeah > I'll > > lose some more money by not working than I would if I were to pay it, > but > > not all that much more being as how I work part time for my college. > My work > > that I actually make money on, computer work and consulting, I > schedule for > > whenever is convenient for me. > > > > Well, I just had to vent a bit, as this is frustrating. Me and the > > girlfriend ended up missing the movie we were going to and went to > the next > > show. The end result was I ended up leaving for CT an hour and some > change > > later than I wanted to, which kinda stunk. > > > > Cory > > Cory, have to start thinking out of the box...PBA card?, get your > driving transcript at DMV and see where you stand with points? are you > paying insurance surcharge? use a bike? etc. Use a bike? What are you some kind of communist? > > Peter |
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