My recent experience with Amsoil

Are these the same scientists that taught us that dramatic climate change
was a common occurrence in the earth's history?

Just who was driving their SUV 10,000 years ago that caused the last one?



"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Scientist that don't agree the earth is in a global warming period
> are out of a job. Ice in our glacier still hold ten times our carbon
> content.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Di his father ever get another EPA contract?

> Just who was driving their SUV 10,000 years ago that caused the last one?
>
>

It was BILL! lol.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

There is a funny story about how honest my Dad was.

One time he had to go to Las Vegas on businesss, now Dad was a smoker
(and that's why he is no longer with us), and he really liked the ash
trays in the hotel room.

So when he was packing up to leave he took one of the ash trays. When
he got to checkout he told them that he had taken one of their ash trays
and wanted to know how much he owed them for it.

The clerk was totally flummoxed, no one had ever asked him a question
like that.

After going back and forth a bit the clerk finally told him to just
leave <G>.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> Dad was the most honest man I've ever known.
>
> I don't know what happened between that company and the EPA after that
> but they are doing very well.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>> Di his father ever get another EPA contract?
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" > wrote in message
>> om...
>>
>>> You should be proud of your father for not fudging the results to
>>> give the
>>> EPA what they wanted.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> "Jeff DeWitt" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>
>>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>>> My father worked for a very reputable company that does contract
>>>> research. One time they got a contract for to do a study for the EPA
>>>> and the results came out 180 deg. off from what the EPA wanted.
>>>>
>>>> The EPA refused to pay for the study because they didn't like the
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually they did pay (it might even had gone to court), but it sure
>>>> says a lot about the quality of government sponsored "science".
>>>>
>>>> Jeff DeWitt
>>>>
>>>> billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now Bill...... the key to reading a government study is that they will
>>>>> always give the desired result.... that is how the grants are
>>>
>>>
>>> apportioned.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And all government grant studies are worth less than the paper
>>>>>> they're printed on.
>>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>> http://www.billhughes.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> billy ray wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I was in college the professor used to say that "An unpublished
>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>> is not worth the paper it isn't written on."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

On 15 Jul 2006 13:09:55 -0700, "Bret Ludwig" >
wrote:

> Certification tests are very expensive which is why several of the
>synthetic specialist vendors don't do them.

And if these so-called "synthetic specialist vendors" don't do the
certification tests, how do they know that the oil would pass them??

If the oil manufacturer had the data to prove that the formulation
passes the the tests, they'd submit them to have the formulation
certified. If "the tests are too expensive", well, ya' takes your
chances.

"The tests are too expensive" is an incredibly lame excuse that only
an idiot would fall for. Amsoil has been pulling this one for years.
It's sad that they *still* continue to suck people in.

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:56:04 GMT, AJ > wrote:

>Stupendous Man wrote:
>
>> Funny how a little outfit like Swepco can get API certification and Amsoil
>> can't.
>
> From what I understand if you change the base you must get
>re-certificantion. It seems like the cheapest base changes all the
>time. It is not the cost of certification but the repeated costs of
>re-certification that causes this stuff to not be certified.

"Recertifying" a tweaked formulation (e.g. changing base oils) is
called "read-across", requiring no expensive tests. The procedures
are spelled out on the API web site. Once a formulation is certified,
the cost of reading across minor changes is virtually zero.

Bret Ludwig is right: the certification testing is expensive. But if
you don't do it, how do you know your oil will pass?

Yep, funny how a little outfit like Swepco can get API certification
and Amsoil can't.

User wrote:

>
> Bret Ludwig is right: the certification testing is expensive. But if
> you don't do it, how do you know your oil will pass?
>
> Yep, funny how a little outfit like Swepco can get API certification
> and Amsoil can't.
>

No argument from me... when they act like snake oil salesman I have
to conclude that is what they are selling. MLM is also a turnoff.

--
Jim