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I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the
passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten years here in Kalifornia. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ " wrote: > > i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger > seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding > the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll > understand why that new Unlimited is calling. > > :-) > > martin caskey > millers island, maryland |
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That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow
the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front passenger. I understand that if you order a wrangler without a rear seat DC is required to put a similar switch in as well. "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten > years here in Kalifornia. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > " wrote: >> >> i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger >> seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding >> the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll >> understand why that new Unlimited is calling. >> >> :-) >> >> martin caskey >> millers island, maryland |
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There are exceptions. I believe Daimler stopped offering the
disconnect switch installation for litigious reasons: http://www.daimlerchrysler.ca/EN/JEE...j_specs_05.pdf God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Rusted wrote: > > That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow > the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front > passenger. I understand that if you order a wrangler without a rear seat DC > is required to put a similar switch in as well. |
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I've got such a switch in my Canadian '02 Sport, and it came with a back
seat. The switch is handy for when I take my son along, leaving the back seat at home. /Peter "Rusted" > wrote in message news > That can't be right. The new chevy trucks come with a key that will allow > the driver to disable the air bags allowing child seats in the front > passenger. I understand that if you order a wrangler without a rear seat DC > is required to put a similar switch in as well. > > > "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message > ... > > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten > > years here in Kalifornia. > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > > > " wrote: > >> > >> i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger > >> seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding > >> the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll > >> understand why that new Unlimited is calling. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> martin caskey > >> millers island, maryland > > > |
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Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in
the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about. Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a CJ. "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten > years here in Kalifornia. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > " wrote: >> >> i fail to undertand why there is a problem. car seat in the passenger >> seat. two car seats in the back seat. mom behind the back seat, holding >> the groceries if necessary. situation under control. maybe THEN she'll >> understand why that new Unlimited is calling. >> >> :-) >> >> martin caskey >> millers island, maryland |
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 12:15:53 -0700, Jerry Bransford >
wrote: >John, no BS, insurance industry actuarial data shows the Wrangler >actually "safer than average" in terms of occupant protection and "less >expensive than average" to repair after an accident. They are heavier >than most cars, have a stronger frame than most cars (especially since >few cars have frames anymore), and have a stronger body than most cars. > >The insurance website that actuarial information used to be on that I >mentioned is, unfortunately, no longer online. But I referred people to >it for several years when assuring them the Wrangler is a much safer >vehicle than most would ever guess it to be. No jive, I was shocked >myself when someone gave me the link to it. Too bad the link is dead now. Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering. There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection. I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford. Wrangler: http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html Saab 9-5: http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html John Davies |
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs46thru47.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O http://www.billhughes.com/ Rusted wrote: > > Would the smokies in CA have issues with my 3 year old, in a car seat, in > the front of my 83 CJ? No airbags to worry about. > > Along that topic, a sad topic. A few years back in a parking lot not far > from home. A mom had her kid in a car seat, in the front, and accidently > ran over a parking baricade (the short 6" type). Well it set off the air > bag and nearly decapitated her child. It was a tramatic event for sure, who > would think that would ever happen to "them". Air bags and kids don't mix > for sure, so don't get me wrong when I want to put my kid in the front of a > CJ. |
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I believe everyone here would know that comparing these crash tests
where the test car just runs into a stationery object comparable to a bride abutment, isn't real life. That's why so many choose gas guzzling SUVs over imports like your Saab. Like if you saw this front-end: http://www.billhughes.com/bronco4.jpg coming at you, it doesn't take much intelligence to know you would be instantly going backwards at about the same speed I hit you. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O John Davies wrote: > > Sorry, I just don't buy that line. Maybe it's true compared to older > cars without side airbags and modern crumple zone engineering. > > There is no way an open vehicle with old technology can match a modern > car with unibody and side airbags for opccupant protection. > > I'm not saying the car would survive the hit better, but that the > injuries of the folks inside will be significantly less. If I had > triplets I would buy the safest car I could afford. > > Wrangler: > http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...ler/index.html > > Saab 9-5: > http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...9-5/index.html > > John Davies |
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I used to ride in my dad's '76 or so CJ that had a half top and bucket
seats. I sat in the middle on top of a 5 gallon bucket. I would have been pretty hurt in an accident but all this **** is based on 'what ifs.' As far as i'm concerned they can take their 'click it or ticket' and they can 'stick it and suck it' No reason to **** all over everyone's parade just because it 'might' happen. Hell I ride my motorcycle with no seatbelt yet sitting inside a metal cage with airbags is less safe? C'mon... Shawn "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message ... > LOL, Those days are long gone, now three hundred bucks first > offense for not have your up to sixty five pound kid belted in their > special car seat. My kids rode in back of my Jeeps and pickups without > seats. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > http://www.billhughes.com/ > > Joe Carroll wrote: >> >> I took the back seat out , put in a thick comforter. That way the dog >> and I get a seat and everone else gets to lay down... >> Joe Carroll >> 2K-TJ >> >> There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are." >> Joseph Duemer |
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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:
> I realize you're kidding us, by suggesting a car seat on the > passenger front seat. I think that's been against the law for over ten > years here in Kalifornia. Not if there's no back seat in many states. This is why Jeeps and pickups have passenger airbag disable switches. A baby seat can't be in a standard cab truck in CA? Barry |
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