GM to build engines in Mexico

bob urz > wrote in
:


> Nowhere did i say or did anyone say there were NEVER engines built in
> Mexico.



Your subject line certainly implies that.


>
> This is NEW money going down there. That's the whole point.
>



Then you need to write more accurate subject lines. Maybe something like:
"GM to build MORE engines in Mexico".


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Tegger

"hls" > wrote in message
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>
> "econo_cars" >
> wrote in message ...
>>
>> "hls" > wrote
>> There is no difference basically between American laborers, South
>>> American laborers, European laborers.
>>>
>>
>> Yes there is. It is called wages. If they demanded the same pay as here
>> there would be zero point in building in Mexico.
>>
>> Econo-cars
>>
>
> That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference wages,
> and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does having
> high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM).
>

They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers.

> I move some items manufactured in Mexico. Quality is excellent and
> the price is somewhat lower than would be available here.

Products made cheap in Mexico are sold here for the same price range it was
sold at before being made cheaply in Mexico. Just look at the Ford Fiesta
American edition. Made in Mexico and more expensive than a Honda Civic which
gives more value for the dollar than the less powerful, smaller, Fiesta.

> Now, if
> I wanted to put in a plant here, and pay the millions extra that
> governmental
> regulations would cost, and if I wanted to tolerate American labor costs,
> unions, and laws, I couldnt compete with old line established companies.
>
> I could,however, make the same products.

You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in Mexico
is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather than
putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of American
Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is killing the
American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend well, and
spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we will all be
poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.

Econo-cars

econo_cars" > wrote
in message ...
>
> You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in
> Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather
> than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of
> American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is
> killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend
> well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we
> will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.
>
> Econo-cars

What you apparently don't realize is that he also, along with a very large
vocal contingent of those found on forums, is almost surely a right-wing
conservative fascist who cares nothing at all about anyone other than
himself and blames the working class, and their advocates, for every ill.

"econo_cars" > wrote
in message ...
>
> "hls" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>>
>>
>> That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference wages,
>> and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does having
>> high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM).


>
> They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers.

What would you have them do? Revolution? Elect a Commie regime??

>> I move some items manufactured in Mexico. Quality is excellent and
>> the price is somewhat lower than would be available here.
>
>> Now, if
>> I wanted to put in a plant here, and pay the millions extra that
>> governmental
>> regulations would cost, and if I wanted to tolerate American labor costs,
>> unions, and laws, I couldnt compete with old line established companies.
>>
>> I could,however, make the same products.
>
> You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in
> Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather
> than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of
> American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is
> killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend
> well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we
> will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.
>

No, I am not misinformed..I take products made in Mexico because that is the
only way I can be competitive in the world market... If I could make those
things
here and be competitive, I would certainly do it.

I pay US taxes on my earnings.

Soon you may all be worse off, that is true.. The reason is that the US
government
has sold your future to the devil, we cannot pay our indebtness any longer,
we are
out of money, and the US dollar is starting its fall from first reserve
currency in the
world to "undesirable".

"That Tune" > wrote in message
...
> econo_cars" >
> wrote in message ...
>>
>> You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in
>> Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather
>> than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of
>> American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is
>> killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend
>> well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we
>> will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.
>>
>> Econo-cars
>
> What you apparently don't realize is that he also, along with a very large
> vocal contingent of those found on forums, is almost surely a right-wing
> conservative fascist who cares nothing at all about anyone other than
> himself and blames the working class, and their advocates, for every ill.

Really, I am a conservative middle of the roader.. You must be a leftist.
I dont blame the "working class".. I blame the government which has
been incompetent and irresponsible for decades, and at whose feet we
can lay a lot of the ills of our society.

hls wrote:
>
> "That Tune" > wrote in message
> ...
> > econo_cars" >
> > wrote in message ...
> >>
> >> You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in
> >> Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets rather
> >> than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot of
> >> American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that is
> >> killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can spend
> >> well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon we
> >> will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.
> >>
> >> Econo-cars
> >
> > What you apparently don't realize is that he also, along with a very large
> > vocal contingent of those found on forums, is almost surely a right-wing
> > conservative fascist who cares nothing at all about anyone other than
> > himself and blames the working class, and their advocates, for every ill.
>
> Really, I am a conservative middle of the roader.. You must be a leftist.
> I dont blame the "working class".. I blame the government which has
> been incompetent and irresponsible for decades, and at whose feet we
> can lay a lot of the ills of our society.

So what is it you want the government to do?

He is right you are contributing to the export of American jobs
Do you want the government to stop you from doing that?

"jim" <"sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net> wrote in message
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>
>
> hls wrote:
>>
>> "That Tune" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > econo_cars" >
>> > wrote in message ...
>> >>
>> >> You're misinformed. The only reason why American companies produce in
>> >> Mexico is so that the owners can put more profit in their pockets
>> >> rather
>> >> than putting it in the pockets of American workers and in the tax pot
>> >> of
>> >> American Taxpayers. It is all about greed, the exact same greed that
>> >> is
>> >> killing the American economy. Americans are paid well so they can
>> >> spend
>> >> well, and spending well is what keeps us all living in comfort. Soon
>> >> we
>> >> will all be poor like the Mexicans who work for crap.
>> >>
>> >> Econo-cars
>> >
>> > What you apparently don't realize is that he also, along with a very
>> > large
>> > vocal contingent of those found on forums, is almost surely a
>> > right-wing
>> > conservative fascist who cares nothing at all about anyone other than
>> > himself and blames the working class, and their advocates, for every
>> > ill.
>>
>> Really, I am a conservative middle of the roader.. You must be a leftist.
>> I dont blame the "working class".. I blame the government which has
>> been incompetent and irresponsible for decades, and at whose feet we
>> can lay a lot of the ills of our society.
>
> So what is it you want the government to do?
>
> He is right you are contributing to the export of American jobs
> Do you want the government to stop you from doing that?

These are NOT American jobs. They are jobs, and this is international
commerce.
I dont owe ANYBODY a job.

"econo_cars" >
wrote in :

>
> "hls" > wrote
> There is no difference basically between American laborers, South
>> American laborers, European laborers.
>>
>
> Yes there is. It is called wages. If they demanded the same pay as here
> there would be zero point in building in Mexico.
>



Are prices of goods the same in Mexico as they are in the US?


--
Tegger

hls wrote:

> >
> > So what is it you want the government to do?
> >
> > He is right you are contributing to the export of American jobs
> > Do you want the government to stop you from doing that?
>
> These are NOT American jobs. They are jobs, and this is international
> commerce.
> I dont owe ANYBODY a job.


That's right and
Nobody owes you a living or a sound economy either.

You are the one whining about
indebtedness and the decline of the US currency.
The number one reason for that is that for the last 30 years
US imports have far exceeded US exports.
That isn't the government's fault.
That is your fault.

"Tegger" > wrote in message >
> Are prices of goods the same in Mexico as they are in the US?
>
>
> --
> Tegger
Essentially, yes. For some years one of the prime materials was
a bit cheaper because it was being manufactured within Mexico and
there was a subsidy to incentivate market growth.. That no longer
exists.