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#52
February 1st 11, 02:26 AM
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GM to build engines in Mexico
On 1/30/2011 6:00 PM, hls wrote:
> > "econo_cars" > > wrote in message ... >> >> "aemeijers" > wrote in message >> ... >>> On 1/29/2011 11:20 AM, econo_cars wrote: >>>> > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> wrote in message ... >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference >>>>>>> wages, >>>>>>> and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does having >>>>>>> high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers. >>>>> >>>>> What would you have them do? Revolution? Elect a Commie regime?? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Quite frankly they could all kill themselves, I'd not care. I care >>>> about >>>> what affects my family and friends and country folk. There are >>>> plenty of >>>> problems in our own area (many caused by illegals from Mexico) to worry >>>> about. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> No, I am not misinformed..I take products made in Mexico because >>>>> that is >>>>> the >>>>> only way I can be competitive in the world market... If I could make >>>>> those things >>>>> here and be competitive, I would certainly do it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You are misinformed. The only Mexico products that you sell for >>>> cheaper than >>>> American made or really really cheaply made crap, just like China >>>> cheap. Any >>>> American company product made in China or Mexico that is of quality >>>> build >>>> and material is sold here for as much as that same product was when >>>> it was >>>> made here. The American public pays the same but America as a whole >>>> has lost >>>> out on production taxes and labor costs going into the tax pot. >>>> >>>>> I pay US taxes on my earnings. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So what? America lost out on the real tax collections which is found in >>>> production costs. That's where the huge dollars come from, the same >>>> dollars >>>> that end up paying for services, even when incompetant governments are >>>> involved in the spending of it. Spending in America is growth in >>>> America. >>>> Phuck everyone else. >>>> >>>>> Soon you may all be worse off, that is true.. The reason is that >>>>> the US >>>>> government >>>>> has sold your future to the devil, we cannot pay our indebtness any >>>>> longer, we are >>>>> out of money, and the US dollar is starting its fall from first >>>>> reserve >>>>> currency in the >>>>> world to "undesirable". >>>>> >>>> >>>> BS, the mistake America has made is buying into the belief that >>>> multiculturalism and global economy is doing anything but draining our >>>> pockets. If I could go back in time I would go back to kill the >>>> first person >>>> who ever brought a black slave here. Then I'd kill the idiots who >>>> didn't >>>> return all freed slaves back to the country they were stolen from. >>> >>> >>> Uh, by 1865, most of the slaves were BORN here... >>> Just sayin' >>> >>> -- >>> aem sends... >>>> >> >> ...and 600 years later the American born blacks are calling themselves >> AFRICAN. LOL. >> >> The point remains though that blacks were stolen from their homelands >> and should have been returned after the wrong (slavery) was abolished. >> America would not have a fraction of the problems it has today if the >> idiots in charge back then would have prevented the first slave ship >> from ever landing, or failing that would have returned all slaves >> (American born or not) back to their country of origin. Just saying.. >> >> Econo-cars > > On this, I agree. They should have never been brought here as slaves. > And when they were liberated they should have been sent "home". > > But, you know, I dont think many of them wanted to go back to Africa. > They were captured by their own people in Africa as slaves, sold to Arab > slave traders, and brought by Portugese and others to America to be sold.. > > They likely had it better here than they ever had in slave Africa. > > They tried it. Google 'Liberia'. It finally sunk in on them that they didn't have enough ships to even make a dent in the black population. New ones were being born faster than they could be shipped off. And like the other guy said- they didn't wanna go, mostly. By the 3rd generation (which most were), most people don't feel a draw to the 'old country'. -- aem sends... 
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#53
February 1st 11, 05:17 PM
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GM to build engines in Mexico
"econo_cars" <reply_to_Group_only@Use-Author-Supplied-> > There are still in this day and age African blacks being sold into slavery > in several African nations. The Sudan is the worst (the last I read which > was over a year ago). The stealers of black Africans are often other black > Africans or Arabs, and those paying money to set the captured slaves free > are often white. Ironic really if you believe the bs race relations > politics here in America where the white is the only racist there is. > > Econo-cars The white man is certainly not the only group which could be called racist here.
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#54
February 1st 11, 11:14 PM
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GM to build engines in Mexico
"econo_cars" > wrote in message ... > > "Bob Cooper" > wrote in message My guess is you're nothing > more than a white ass, because I've never heard any of the hundreds of > Indians I know ever say anything like what you just said. > > Econo-cars Around here, the blacks hate the hispanics with a passion. They dislike the whites too, but not as bad as they hate the hispanics. ?? The hispanics dont seem to hate anybody...They are just glad to be here, staying warm, and eating regularly. I think the whites still disrespect blacks personally, but not as a race. But I have been wrong before.
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#55
February 4th 11, 06:18 PM
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GM to build engines in Mexico
"aemeijers" > wrote in message ... > On 1/30/2011 6:00 PM, hls wrote: >> >> "econo_cars" > >> wrote in message ... >>> >>> "aemeijers" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> On 1/29/2011 11:20 AM, econo_cars wrote: >>>>> > wrote in message >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote in message ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > wrote in message >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference >>>>>>>> wages, >>>>>>>> and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does having >>>>>>>> high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers. >>>>>> >>>>>> What would you have them do? Revolution? Elect a Commie regime?? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quite frankly they could all kill themselves, I'd not care. I care >>>>> about >>>>> what affects my family and friends and country folk. There are >>>>> plenty of >>>>> problems in our own area (many caused by illegals from Mexico) to >>>>> worry >>>>> about. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I am not misinformed..I take products made in Mexico because >>>>>> that is >>>>>> the >>>>>> only way I can be competitive in the world market... If I could make >>>>>> those things >>>>>> here and be competitive, I would certainly do it. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are misinformed. The only Mexico products that you sell for >>>>> cheaper than >>>>> American made or really really cheaply made crap, just like China >>>>> cheap. Any >>>>> American company product made in China or Mexico that is of quality >>>>> build >>>>> and material is sold here for as much as that same product was when >>>>> it was >>>>> made here. The American public pays the same but America as a whole >>>>> has lost >>>>> out on production taxes and labor costs going into the tax pot. >>>>> >>>>>> I pay US taxes on my earnings. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So what? America lost out on the real tax collections which is found >>>>> in >>>>> production costs. That's where the huge dollars come from, the same >>>>> dollars >>>>> that end up paying for services, even when incompetant governments are >>>>> involved in the spending of it. Spending in America is growth in >>>>> America. >>>>> Phuck everyone else. >>>>> >>>>>> Soon you may all be worse off, that is true.. The reason is that >>>>>> the US >>>>>> government >>>>>> has sold your future to the devil, we cannot pay our indebtness any >>>>>> longer, we are >>>>>> out of money, and the US dollar is starting its fall from first >>>>>> reserve >>>>>> currency in the >>>>>> world to "undesirable". >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> BS, the mistake America has made is buying into the belief that >>>>> multiculturalism and global economy is doing anything but draining our >>>>> pockets. If I could go back in time I would go back to kill the >>>>> first person >>>>> who ever brought a black slave here. Then I'd kill the idiots who >>>>> didn't >>>>> return all freed slaves back to the country they were stolen from. >>>> >>>> >>>> Uh, by 1865, most of the slaves were BORN here... >>>> Just sayin' >>>> >>>> -- >>>> aem sends... >>>>> >>> >>> ...and 600 years later the American born blacks are calling themselves >>> AFRICAN. LOL. >>> >>> The point remains though that blacks were stolen from their homelands >>> and should have been returned after the wrong (slavery) was abolished. >>> America would not have a fraction of the problems it has today if the >>> idiots in charge back then would have prevented the first slave ship >>> from ever landing, or failing that would have returned all slaves >>> (American born or not) back to their country of origin. Just saying.. >>> >>> Econo-cars >> >> On this, I agree. They should have never been brought here as slaves. >> And when they were liberated they should have been sent "home". >> >> But, you know, I dont think many of them wanted to go back to Africa. >> They were captured by their own people in Africa as slaves, sold to Arab >> slave traders, and brought by Portugese and others to America to be >> sold.. >> >> They likely had it better here than they ever had in slave Africa. >> >> > > They tried it. Google 'Liberia'. It finally sunk in on them that they > didn't have enough ships to even make a dent in the black population. New > ones were being born faster than they could be shipped off. And like the > other guy said- they didn't wanna go, mostly. By the 3rd generation (which > most were), most people don't feel a draw to the 'old country'. > > -- > aem sends... I hadn't heard of Liberia, but have read about it now. Thanks for the pointer. Too bad it didn't work (only because the American and British whites didn't back off and tried to control everything, and because the aboriginals of Liberia territory were excluded, how dumb was that?) . My idea was more that the people of the time figure out what the heritage of each black was, and return them to the country of their heritage. It wouldn't be a choice if they wanted to go or not. The only people today who would be calling themselves African American (or by law it would be American African, aka America first, Africa as an afterthought) would be immigrants since that time who really came from an African nations. After first generation the person is simply American, period. After all you don't here people with an Irish background for instance calling themselves Irish American, or Americans from Polish history calling themselves Polish American. They simply become Americans after the first generation of immigration. That's the way it should be if we ever hope to be united as a country. .. Econo-cars
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#56
February 4th 11, 06:21 PM
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GM to build engines in Mexico
"econo_cars" > wrote in message ... > > "aemeijers" > wrote in message > ... >> On 1/30/2011 6:00 PM, hls wrote: >>> >>> "econo_cars" > >>> wrote in message ... >>>> >>>> "aemeijers" > wrote in message >>>> ... >>>>> On 1/29/2011 11:20 AM, econo_cars wrote: >>>>>> > wrote in message >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote in message ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > wrote in message >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is not a difference in the laborers. That is a difference >>>>>>>>> wages, >>>>>>>>> and having low wages does not cause a poor product, nor does >>>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>>> high wages guarantee a good one (ref. GM). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They allow themselves to be abused. They are suckers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What would you have them do? Revolution? Elect a Commie regime?? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quite frankly they could all kill themselves, I'd not care. I care >>>>>> about >>>>>> what affects my family and friends and country folk. There are >>>>>> plenty of >>>>>> problems in our own area (many caused by illegals from Mexico) to >>>>>> worry >>>>>> about. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, I am not misinformed..I take products made in Mexico because >>>>>>> that is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> only way I can be competitive in the world market... If I could make >>>>>>> those things >>>>>>> here and be competitive, I would certainly do it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You are misinformed. The only Mexico products that you sell for >>>>>> cheaper than >>>>>> American made or really really cheaply made crap, just like China >>>>>> cheap. Any >>>>>> American company product made in China or Mexico that is of quality >>>>>> build >>>>>> and material is sold here for as much as that same product was when >>>>>> it was >>>>>> made here. The American public pays the same but America as a whole >>>>>> has lost >>>>>> out on production taxes and labor costs going into the tax pot. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I pay US taxes on my earnings. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So what? America lost out on the real tax collections which is found >>>>>> in >>>>>> production costs. That's where the huge dollars come from, the same >>>>>> dollars >>>>>> that end up paying for services, even when incompetant governments >>>>>> are >>>>>> involved in the spending of it. Spending in America is growth in >>>>>> America. >>>>>> Phuck everyone else. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Soon you may all be worse off, that is true.. The reason is that >>>>>>> the US >>>>>>> government >>>>>>> has sold your future to the devil, we cannot pay our indebtness any >>>>>>> longer, we are >>>>>>> out of money, and the US dollar is starting its fall from first >>>>>>> reserve >>>>>>> currency in the >>>>>>> world to "undesirable". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BS, the mistake America has made is buying into the belief that >>>>>> multiculturalism and global economy is doing anything but draining >>>>>> our >>>>>> pockets. If I could go back in time I would go back to kill the >>>>>> first person >>>>>> who ever brought a black slave here. Then I'd kill the idiots who >>>>>> didn't >>>>>> return all freed slaves back to the country they were stolen from. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Uh, by 1865, most of the slaves were BORN here... >>>>> Just sayin' >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> aem sends... >>>>>> >>>> >>>> ...and 600 years later the American born blacks are calling themselves >>>> AFRICAN. LOL. >>>> >>>> The point remains though that blacks were stolen from their homelands >>>> and should have been returned after the wrong (slavery) was abolished. >>>> America would not have a fraction of the problems it has today if the >>>> idiots in charge back then would have prevented the first slave ship >>>> from ever landing, or failing that would have returned all slaves >>>> (American born or not) back to their country of origin. Just saying.. >>>> >>>> Econo-cars >>> >>> On this, I agree. They should have never been brought here as slaves. >>> And when they were liberated they should have been sent "home". >>> >>> But, you know, I dont think many of them wanted to go back to Africa. >>> They were captured by their own people in Africa as slaves, sold to Arab >>> slave traders, and brought by Portugese and others to America to be >>> sold.. >>> >>> They likely had it better here than they ever had in slave Africa. >>> >>> >> >> They tried it. Google 'Liberia'. It finally sunk in on them that they >> didn't have enough ships to even make a dent in the black population. >> New ones were being born faster than they could be shipped off. And like >> the other guy said- they didn't wanna go, mostly. By the 3rd generation >> (which most were), most people don't feel a draw to the 'old country'. >> >> -- >> aem sends... > > I hadn't heard of Liberia, but have read about it now. Thanks for the > pointer. Too bad it didn't work (only because the American and British > whites didn't back off and tried to control everything, and because the > aboriginals of Liberia territory were excluded, how dumb was that?) . My > idea was more that the people of the time figure out what the heritage of > each black was, and return them to the country of their heritage. It > wouldn't be a choice if they wanted to go or not. The only people today > who would be calling themselves African American (or by law it would be > American African, aka America first, Africa as an afterthought) would be > immigrants since that time who really came from an African nations. After > first generation the person is simply American, period. After all you > don't here people with an Irish background for instance calling themselves > Irish American, or Americans from Polish history calling themselves > Polish American. They simply become Americans after the first generation > of immigration. That's the way it should be if we ever hope to be united > as a country. > . > Econo-cars After all you don't here = should be hear, duh and from an African nations should = African nation, double duh. Econo-cars
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