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Old June 10th 04, 02:16 PM
NC
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All,
I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
on Tuesday next week:
1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
60000. (£4.5k)
2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)

I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
(2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
it done ?
I am no used car pro, and this will be my first Alfa. As a result, the
AA will be doing an advanced check o nthe one I like most.
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Old June 10th 04, 02:24 PM
Paul
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Hi,

You should be looking at getting the Cambelt done NOW! and you will be
looking at around £300 maybe more, I had a V6 Veloce and a service and
Cambelt change from an independant Alfa Specialist came in at £500.

Paul
Ex 156 V6 SIII Veloce Owner
Now a Happy for now 3L V6 S-Type Jag Owner

"NC" > wrote in message
...
> All,
> I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
> on Tuesday next week:
> 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
> 60000. (£4.5k)
> 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
>
> I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
> it done ?
> I am no used car pro, and this will be my first Alfa. As a result, the
> AA will be doing an advanced check o nthe one I like most.



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Old June 10th 04, 02:32 PM
NC
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Paul wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You should be looking at getting the Cambelt done NOW! and you will be
> looking at around £300 maybe more, I had a V6 Veloce and a service and
> Cambelt change from an independant Alfa Specialist came in at £500.
>
> Paul
> Ex 156 V6 SIII Veloce Owner
> Now a Happy for now 3L V6 S-Type Jag Owner
>
> "NC" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>All,
>>I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
>>on Tuesday next week:
>>1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
>>60000. (£4.5k)
>>2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
>>outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
>>
>>I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
>>closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
>>planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
>>(2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
>>it done ?
>>I am no used car pro, and this will be my first Alfa. As a result, the
>>AA will be doing an advanced check o nthe one I like most.

>
>
>


Thanks - I can maybe use that to knock at least £200/£300 off the price,
helps with the haggle !
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Old June 10th 04, 02:46 PM
David C
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"NC" > wrote in message
...
> All,
> I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
> on Tuesday next week:
> 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
> 60000. (£4.5k)
> 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
>
> I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
> it done ?


£500 max and it needs it NOW!!
--
David C
156 Selespeed sp3 + Brembo conversion


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Old June 10th 04, 05:59 PM
SS
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I'd phone your nearest dealer.
ask the cost of the 48K service plus cambelt change and then haggle that
amount and no less off the guy selling it.

SS


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Old June 10th 04, 08:35 PM
Alfistagj
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Are you really still happy with the Jag?
--
Ciao from Holland
AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
Golden Montreal 1428700 (1973/4)


"Paul" > schreef in bericht
...
> Hi,
>
> You should be looking at getting the Cambelt done NOW! and you will be
> looking at around £300 maybe more, I had a V6 Veloce and a service and
> Cambelt change from an independant Alfa Specialist came in at £500.
>
> Paul
> Ex 156 V6 SIII Veloce Owner
> Now a Happy for now 3L V6 S-Type Jag Owner
>
> "NC" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All,
> > I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
> > on Tuesday next week:
> > 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
> > 60000. (£4.5k)
> > 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> > outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
> >
> > I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> > closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> > planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> > (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
> > it done ?
> > I am no used car pro, and this will be my first Alfa. As a result, the
> > AA will be doing an advanced check o nthe one I like most.

>
>



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Old June 10th 04, 10:00 PM
MarkK
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"NC" > wrote in message
...
> All,
> I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
> on Tuesday next week:
> 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
> 60000. (£4.5k)
> 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
>
> I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
> it done ?


Hi Neil,
Our local dealer recommends it's done at 5 years or 60k miles, but 36k is
safer. Either way (2) needs it doing as others have said. I had mine done a
month ago at Desira on Woodbridge Rd for £390 for my 2.0TS.

I inspected the old belt afterwards and it was in perfect condition after 5
years and 30k miles. Better safe than sorry, though.

I'd be wary about buying (2) if what you say is literally correct, i.e he
hasn't serviced it. If true, find another.

Cheers,

Mark


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Old June 10th 04, 10:29 PM
Paul
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Dare I say Yes,

Its a heavier than the Alfa but its fitted with the CATS adaptive sport
suspension and when the Box is in sport mode its a bit of a handfull so much
so the Traction and stability control sometime does not keep up.

So next time you pull upt against an S-Type in the hope of a drag race from
the lights dont get a shock if your left looking at Jags Rear.

But Seriously on a sensible note its a pleasure to drive even when being
sensible and concidering its a £35000 car when it was new I have alot of car
for the money I paid.

I will see how the Alfa GT fairs you never know I may return, I still like
the Alfa allot I think once they get in your Blood they never really leave,
its just a shame the dealerships are crap and the residuals are poor.

Paul
"Alfistagj" > wrote in message
news:6K2yc.2480$9n5.649@amstwist00...
> Are you really still happy with the Jag?
> --
> Ciao from Holland
> AlfistaGJ (Gert-Jan)
> Alfa red 156 SW 1.8 Madeno tuned (2000)
> Golden Montreal 1428700 (1973/4)
>
>
> "Paul" > schreef in bericht
> ...
> > Hi,
> >
> > You should be looking at getting the Cambelt done NOW! and you will be
> > looking at around £300 maybe more, I had a V6 Veloce and a service and
> > Cambelt change from an independant Alfa Specialist came in at £500.
> >
> > Paul
> > Ex 156 V6 SIII Veloce Owner
> > Now a Happy for now 3L V6 S-Type Jag Owner
> >
> > "NC" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > All,
> > > I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private

cars
> > > on Tuesday next week:
> > > 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service

at
> > > 60000. (£4.5k)
> > > 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> > > outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
> > >
> > > I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> > > closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> > > planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> > > (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be

getting
> > > it done ?
> > > I am no used car pro, and this will be my first Alfa. As a result, the
> > > AA will be doing an advanced check o nthe one I like most.

> >
> >

>
>



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Old June 11th 04, 09:50 AM
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Paul > wrote in message
...

> "Alfistagj" > wrote in message
> news:6K2yc.2480$9n5.649@amstwist00...
> > Are you really still happy with the Jag?


> Dare I say Yes,


I thought this might have been directed at me, from a week or so ago. It is
interesting to see that someone else also has been looking at a Jag/Alfa
trade off.

> I will see how the Alfa GT fairs you never know I may return, I still like
> the Alfa allot I think once they get in your Blood they never really

leave,
> its just a shame the dealerships are crap and the residuals are poor.


This is what has finally put me off an Alfa I am afraid. As good as the car
was to drive, the comments here about cam belts, specialty oils and dealer
service, coupled with comments from a friend with a 147, have meant that the
Jags won the day. Shame really, but I need a car that is going to be
reliable as well as fun to drive.


--
PyroJames
Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.


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Old June 11th 04, 12:18 PM
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"MarkK" > wrote in message >...
> "NC" > wrote in message
> ...
> > All,
> > I am looking at buying a used 156 1,8. I am booked to see 2 private cars
> > on Tuesday next week:
> > 1) 1999(v) Veloce, 69000 miles, cambelt done as part of main service at
> > 60000. (£4.5k)
> > 2) 1999(T) Veloce, 50000miles. Owner has done "nothing" to the car
> > outside of things like brake pads and wiper blades. (£4.7k)
> >
> > I am more interested in (2), mainly due to the lesser miles, its much
> > closer, and the wife prefers the colour (I know.. I know..). I am
> > planning on trying to use the Cambelt change as a bargaining tool in
> > (2). So, how much can I expect it to cost, and when should I be getting
> > it done ?

>
> Hi Neil,
> Our local dealer recommends it's done at 5 years or 60k miles, but 36k is
> safer. Either way (2) needs it doing as others have said. I had mine done a
> month ago at Desira on Woodbridge Rd for £390 for my 2.0TS.
>
> I inspected the old belt afterwards and it was in perfect condition after 5
> years and 30k miles. Better safe than sorry, though.
>
> I'd be wary about buying (2) if what you say is literally correct, i.e he
> hasn't serviced it. If true, find another.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark



I completely agree with Mark on this one. If it hasn't got a service
history don't think about it. The damage this guy could have done with
low oil could haunt you. Your AA check is not going to find this
unless he takes the head off... Low oil will also put further wear on
the timing belt (he's lucky it hasn't gone already).
There's plenty about, plus I got a 2.5V6 S2 1998 60,000 FSH for £5K,
so are those a bit overpriced? Maybe not if they give a reasonable
'haggle'.
 




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