Insteqad of ****ing and moaning, "john" how about doing something useful?

On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:22:27 +0000, fred wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= > wrote
> in news >
>> Sent to NBC Nightly News:
>>
>> With all the reports on Toyota's stuck accelerator problem, no one has
>> really said a lot about how to control the car if it does get away from
>> you. These are common-sense rules for handling a Toyota recently on
>> recall, and general rules for any car on which the accelerator is
>> sticking:
>>
>> 1. If the accelerator sticks in an open position, do not try to free it
>> by pressing on it! Get the car into neutral first.
>>
> 1b. Also do *not* crawl down and try to move either the carpet or the
> pedal by hand as this will make you spill your beer and could spill the
> deepfryer making things worse.
> <g>


I was going to add something like this (without the beer and the deep fat
fryer) but figured it would confuse Aunt Tessie in Kalamazoo...

KISS...

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:46:16 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

> The problem with your suggestion is, by the time the average woman and
> older guys that buy Toyotas, thinks to do all that they will have hit
> something

I know. It's kinda like ****in in the wind...

>
>
> "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
> news
>> Sent to NBC Nightly News:
>>
>> With all the reports on Toyota's stuck accelerator problem, no one has
>> really said a lot about how to control the car if it does get away from
>> you. These are common-sense rules for handling a Toyota recently on
>> recall, and general rules for any car on which the accelerator is
>> sticking:
>>
>> 1. If the accelerator sticks in an open position, do not try to free it
>> by pressing on it! Get the car into neutral first.
>>
>> 2. Get the transmission into Neutral! Most cars sold in the US have
>> Automatic transmissions. For the 5% sold with manual transmissions,
>> depress the clutch and move the shift lever into Neutral.
>>
>> For Automatics: if the vehicle is not equipped with a "Sport Shift"
>> style transmission, move the gear selector from Drive or Overdrive to
>> the Neutral position, in almost all cases one notch. On cars equipped
>> with a Sport Shift style transmission, the gear selector has to be moved
>> back to the Drive position before it can be shifted into Neutral. On the
>> Toyota models that have the Sport Shift and are subject to the recall,
>> it is best to refrain from using the manual shift option and until the
>> car is repaired; use the Drive position. Seconds can matter.
>>
>> 3. Turn the key to the ACC position.
>>
>> On cars with a key, turn the key back one click to the ACC position.
>> This shuts off the engine to prevent any damage, but also turns off the
>> power steering and power brakes. The car will become harder to steer and
>> stop, but the engine will be off so if the gearshift is accidently moved
>> back into a gear, the car will coast to a stop.
>>
>> 4. Plant on or both feet firmly on the brakes.
>>
>> Pedal pressure will be light until the effects of the engine being
>> turned off start to be felt. At first the pedal will operate normally.
>> Do not pump the pedal. This will cause the pedal to operate harder more
>> quickly. Instead, with one or both feet, depress the pedal and bring the
>> car to a safe stop.
>>
>> 5. At some point when it is safe to do so, turn on the flashers.
>>
>> This will alert other drivers on the road that you are experiencing a
>> problem and hopefully avoid a collision.
>>
>>
>> These steps will ensure most people a safe stop.
>>
>> Instead of telling us how bad Toyotas have become, and scaring the
>> daylights out of people, you would better serve the public by passing
>> these steps along to keep people safe.
>>
>> It should also be mentioned that if a person is intimidated by their car
>> and might be unable to follow these steps, they should avoid driving the
>> car until the repair is made, and either have the car towed to the
>> dealer, or have it driven there by someone who would be able to control
>> the car in case of a runaway situation.
>>
>> Having a scared person behind the wheel of an uncontrollable car is the
>> last thing that should be allowed to happen!
>>
>>
>>

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:35:10 +0000, me wrote:

> Older guys, huh. I'm 57 and can drive rings around your lame little butt.
> Track or road, done em both. I suppose you are in your 20's. Guess why MY
> insurance is cheaper than yours.

(you have your 'follow up' set to your e-mail addy...)

Now you're in for it...Other end of the spectrum!




>
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com> wrote in
> :
>
>> The problem with your suggestion is, by the time the average woman and
>> older guys that buy Toyotas, thinks to do all that they will have hit
>> something
>>
> <SNIP>

"Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク" > wrote in message
news
> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:46:16 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>> The problem with your suggestion is, by the time the average woman and
>> older guys that buy Toyotas, thinks to do all that they will have hit
>> something
>
> I know. It's kinda like ****in in the wind...

Tell us what that is like.

On Feb 4, 4:18 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> Sent to NBC Nightly News:
>
> With all the reports on Toyota's stuck accelerator problem, no one has
> really said a lot about how to control the car if it does get away from
> you. These are common-sense rules for handling a Toyota recently on
> recall, and general rules for any car on which the accelerator is
> sticking:
>
> 1. If the accelerator sticks in an open position, do not try to free it by
> pressing on it! Get the car into neutral first.
>
> 2. Get the transmission into Neutral! Most cars sold in the US have
> Automatic transmissions. For the 5% sold with manual transmissions,
> depress the clutch and move the shift lever into Neutral.
>
> For Automatics: if the vehicle is not equipped with a "Sport Shift" style
> transmission, move the gear selector from Drive or Overdrive to the
> Neutral position, in almost all cases one notch. On cars equipped with a
> Sport Shift style transmission, the gear selector has to be moved back to
> the Drive position before it can be shifted into Neutral.
> On the Toyota models that have the Sport Shift and are subject to the
> recall, it is best to refrain from using the manual shift option and until
> the car is repaired; use the Drive position. Seconds can matter.
>
> 3. Turn the key to the ACC position.
>
> On cars with a key, turn the key back one click to the ACC position. This
> shuts off the engine to prevent any damage, but also turns off the power
> steering and power brakes. The car will become harder to steer and stop,
> but the engine will be off so if the gearshift is accidently moved back
> into a gear, the car will coast to a stop.
>
> 4. Plant on or both feet firmly on the brakes.
>
> Pedal pressure will be light until the effects of the engine being turned
> off start to be felt. At first the pedal will operate normally. Do not
> pump the pedal. This will cause the pedal to operate harder more quickly.
> Instead, with one or both feet, depress the pedal and bring the car to a
> safe stop.
>
> 5. At some point when it is safe to do so, turn on the flashers.
>
> This will alert other drivers on the road that you are experiencing a
> problem and hopefully avoid a collision.
>
> These steps will ensure most people a safe stop.
>
> Instead of telling us how bad Toyotas have become, and scaring the
> daylights out of people, you would better serve the public by passing
> these steps along to keep people safe.
>
> It should also be mentioned that if a person is intimidated by their car
> and might be unable to follow these steps, they should avoid driving the
> car until the repair is made, and either have the car towed to the dealer,
> or have it driven there by someone who would be able to control the car in
> case of a runaway situation.
>
> Having a scared person behind the wheel of an uncontrollable car is the
> last thing that should be allowed to happen!

3 a bad idea, brakes are Hydraulic, powered by the motor, no motor, no
brakes, the motor has a rev limiter it wont blow. Now if you said use
the emergency brake that would give something, about 45% brake power.
But so what that he posts News, he posts facts, does it hurt your
feelings about toyota. As I see it the CEO is a idiot, they ignore the
Prius issues but now admit fixing the production run of about a week
ago and tell no one!. I heard they havnt figured out how to contact
Prius owners[which of course is bs] what they have shown is a desire
to ignore it, and I still believe Wozniak more than any other, so as I
see it its far from over, its only beginning.

On Feb 4, 6:24 pm, twisted > wrote:
> On Feb 4, 5:18 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
>
> That's stupid. Put it in neutral so it revs up and blows! Damn
> intelligent. Just turn the ignition off!

It has a rev limiter, the motor powers the brakes, it wont blow.

On Feb 4, 8:28 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:24:27 -0800, twisted wrote:
> > On Feb 4, 5:18 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B > wrote:
>
> > That's stupid. Put it in neutral so it revs up and blows! Damn
> > intelligent. Just turn the ignition off!
>
> Um, what happens when you turn the ignition off in gear?

Um, the engine shuts off and the car slows down.

Obama attacks Toyota.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=283165

Toyota is working on the problem(s).
I say Toyota should tell Obama where to ''shove it!''
cuhulin

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:52:50 -0800, ransley wrote:

>> It should also be mentioned that if a person is intimidated by their car
>> and might be unable to follow these steps, they should avoid driving the
>> car until the repair is made, and either have the car towed to the
>> dealer, or have it driven there by someone who would be able to control
>> the car in case of a runaway situation.
>>
>> Having a scared person behind the wheel of an uncontrollable car is the
>> last thing that should be allowed to happen!
>
> 3 a bad idea, brakes are Hydraulic, powered by the motor, no motor, no
> brakes, the motor has a rev limiter it wont blow. Now if you said use the
> emergency brake that would give something, about 45% brake power. But so
> what that he posts News, he posts facts, does it hurt your feelings about
> toyota.

Not really. When they got big they were bound to have a ****-up.
What ****es me off is the big deal the media is making out of it. NBC
spends 5 minutes a night about it with no useful information, just Toyota
bashing. Wow. That's news!

As far as putting the transmission in Neutral, that's what EVERYONE is
saying.

But, I suppose this is better...

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/...091102_ssh.jpg

On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:57:25 -0800, twisted wrote:

> On Feb 4, 8:28 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク > wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:24:27 -0800, twisted wrote:
>> > On Feb 4, 5:18 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク > wrote:
>>
>> > That's stupid. Put it in neutral so it revs up and blows! Damn
>> > intelligent. Just turn the ignition off!
>>
>> Um, what happens when you turn the ignition off in gear?
>
> Um, the engine shuts off and the car slows down.


In a 1964 Biscayne, this was true.