more than the starter...??

Just installed a new starter, my engine is in semi good condition (it
sat in the driveway all winter so is rustier but I would start it once
a week at least and it has fresh oil) 1776cc dual carb with only like
5000 miles on her. It also has a new battery.

When I turn the key...the new starter only makes a whirring noise. The
first time I cranked it it actually fired, now it only makes the
whirring noise. Could it be a problem with a connection to the
starter, since the solenoid seems to be working??

I installed it as it says in the John Muir book, but we didnt take out
the old bushing in the transmission...the old one was in good working
order, and my brother wanted to just put the new starter in to see if
she would kick. no luck.


I'm completely lost at this point...its been months since I've been
able to drive her. I would almost rather just bring her into a shop
somewhere and pay the money. I just need her to run at this point.
Horrible attitude, I know.

any sugguestions, please!

frustrated,

Katie

BOSCH STARTER?????


> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Just installed a new starter, my engine is in semi good condition (it
> sat in the driveway all winter so is rustier but I would start it once
> a week at least and it has fresh oil) 1776cc dual carb with only like
> 5000 miles on her. It also has a new battery.
>
> When I turn the key...the new starter only makes a whirring noise. The
> first time I cranked it it actually fired, now it only makes the
> whirring noise. Could it be a problem with a connection to the
> starter, since the solenoid seems to be working??
>
> I installed it as it says in the John Muir book, but we didnt take out
> the old bushing in the transmission...the old one was in good working
> order, and my brother wanted to just put the new starter in to see if
> she would kick. no luck.
>
>
> I'm completely lost at this point...its been months since I've been
> able to drive her. I would almost rather just bring her into a shop
> somewhere and pay the money. I just need her to run at this point.
> Horrible attitude, I know.
>
> any sugguestions, please!
>
> frustrated,
>
> Katie
>
>

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> When I turn the key...the new starter only makes a whirring noise. The
> first time I cranked it it actually fired, now it only makes the
> whirring noise. Could it be a problem with a connection to the
> starter, since the solenoid seems to be working??
SNIP

> Katie
>
>

Does the engine turn over or just the starter? Starters can spin without
turning the engine over if the drive doesn't engage the flywheel. Have
someone check the engine visually and see if the pulley turns as you turn
the key if you are not sure. What was the issue with the old starter? Same
problem or something different? If the engine isn't spinning, I'd remove the
starter and have it checked for proper operation, any reputable parts store
can do that for you free of charge. It is not unheard of for a starter to be
defective, even new. From here, I will let the more experienced guys take
over...

Sneaks
'68 T1

Sneaks wrote:

> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>When I turn the key...the new starter only makes a whirring noise. The
>>first time I cranked it it actually fired, now it only makes the
>>whirring noise. Could it be a problem with a connection to the
>>starter, since the solenoid seems to be working??
>
> SNIP
>
>
>>Katie

>>
>
>
> Does the engine turn over or just the starter? Starters can spin without
> turning the engine over if the drive doesn't engage the flywheel. Have
> someone check the engine visually and see if the pulley turns as you turn
> the key if you are not sure. What was the issue with the old starter? Same
> problem or something different? If the engine isn't spinning, I'd remove the
> starter and have it checked for proper operation, any reputable parts store
> can do that for you free of charge. It is not unheard of for a starter to be
> defective, even new. From here, I will let the more experienced guys take
> over...
>
> Sneaks
> '68 T1
>
>

Except it will take an experienced store to know that you
can't bench test the Beetle starter since the armature has
no bearing at the end of the shaft :-)

As Sneaks said though, see if the engine is turning.
It's even possible that the flywheel teeth are gone.
Or....the crank has so much endplay that the flywheel
has moved out of the path of the starter pinion.

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/