Starving 95 Neon

Well... to answer all the questions.
The car had been off for about five mins. The temp today was average about
10'C, so cold temp and a cold engine would not be an issue.
As I mentioned, it would sputter as if it wanted to start, but did not have
the fuel to do so.
There was no engine light that came on once the car started. Checked the for
error codes once she got home today and there was nothing.
As for tune ups, The spark plugs are about 3 weeks old, and maybe 1500km on
them. I have not had a chance to pull them to see what they look like. Will
do that tomorrow.
There is a cold air intake on the car, with a clean filter. (cleaned it
about two weeks ago)

I am wondering about the fuel filter. I was wondering if that may be the
issue as I believe that it has never been changed by any of the previous
owners of the car, and I have never changed it.
I will check the plugs tomorrow, and run some injector cleaner through it. I
hope it was a fluke occurrance.

Mike
mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

"Bill 2" > wrote in message
...
>
> "mike" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> > it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> > throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> > This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> > fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> > gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> > system should have had gas pressure still.
> > Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> > this persists?
> > I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> > much faith in the stuff though.
>
> Any check engine lights?
>
> > btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
>
>
> 370 000 km? Wow, that's impressive. How has the car held up through these
> years?
>
> When did your head gasket go?
>
>

Ok, so I pulled the plugs, they look nice and tanned as they should. The car
has not acted up after that one time occurrance. I am out of ideas as to
what could be the cause.

"mike" > wrote in message
om...
> My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> system should have had gas pressure still.
> Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> this persists?
> I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> much faith in the stuff though.
>
> btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> Mike
> mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

Ok, so I pulled the plugs, they look nice and tanned as they should. The car
has not acted up after that one time occurrance. I am out of ideas as to
what could be the cause.

"mike" > wrote in message
om...
> My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> system should have had gas pressure still.
> Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> this persists?
> I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> much faith in the stuff though.
>
> btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> Mike
> mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

Let sleeping gremlins lie?

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
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"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...

[...]
> The car
> has not acted up after that one time occurrance. I am out of ideas as to
> what could be the cause.
>
[...]

Let sleeping gremlins lie?

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
---

"Michael" <mlawrenc(NO > wrote in message
...

[...]
> The car
> has not acted up after that one time occurrance. I am out of ideas as to
> what could be the cause.
>
[...]

that tune would include servicing the battery which i know is corrioded

maxpower wrote:

> Holding your foot to the floor is turning the fuel off with this vehicle,
> that tells me the vehicle was flooded, when was the last time the engine was
> tuned up
> "mike" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> > it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> > throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> > This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> > fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> > gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> > system should have had gas pressure still.
> > Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> > this persists?
> > I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> > much faith in the stuff though.
> >
> > btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> > Mike
> > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

that tune would include servicing the battery which i know is corrioded

maxpower wrote:

> Holding your foot to the floor is turning the fuel off with this vehicle,
> that tells me the vehicle was flooded, when was the last time the engine was
> tuned up
> "mike" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> > it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> > throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> > This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> > fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> > gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> > system should have had gas pressure still.
> > Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> > this persists?
> > I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> > much faith in the stuff though.
> >
> > btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> > Mike
> > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca

WTF?
"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> that tune would include servicing the battery which i know is corrioded
>
> maxpower wrote:
>
> > Holding your foot to the floor is turning the fuel off with this
vehicle,
> > that tells me the vehicle was flooded, when was the last time the engine
was
> > tuned up
> > "mike" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> > > it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> > > throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> > > This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> > > fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> > > gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> > > system should have had gas pressure still.
> > > Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> > > this persists?
> > > I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> > > much faith in the stuff though.
> > >
> > > btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> > > Mike
> > > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
>

WTF?
"mic canic" > wrote in message
...
> that tune would include servicing the battery which i know is corrioded
>
> maxpower wrote:
>
> > Holding your foot to the floor is turning the fuel off with this
vehicle,
> > that tells me the vehicle was flooded, when was the last time the engine
was
> > tuned up
> > "mike" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > My girlfriend's car was acting up today. When she tried to start it,
> > > it would sputter as if it was trying to start. I told her to put the
> > > throtle to the floor when starting it. Car started without incident.
> > > This is the first time this has happen. I believe it was not getting
> > > fuel. What makes it interesting is that she had just been driving it,
> > > gone into a store, then it would not start. I would think that the
> > > system should have had gas pressure still.
> > > Would anyone have any suggestions on where to look for the troubles if
> > > this persists?
> > > I am begining to wonder if injector cleaner would help. I do not have
> > > much faith in the stuff though.
> > >
> > > btw, car is a 2.0l SOHC, 5 speed with approx. 370,000km
> > > Mike
> > > mlawrenc(at)rcc.on.ca
>

maxpower wrote:

> Holding your foot to the floor is turning the fuel off with this vehicle,
> that tells me the vehicle was flooded...

I doubt it actually turns the fuel off (unless WOT with engine off
condition is an actual trigger for the engine computer to do so), but,
in general, the reason pushing the pedal to the floor at startup clears
a flooded condition is that the open butterfly gives free flow to air to
purge the excess gasoline out of the combustion chamber and into the
exhaust (rather than cutting fuel off per se).

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')


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