Bring back the Brat or modernize the Wrangler

"Matt Mead" > wrote in message
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> Uh, yeah, but since the the discussion was started about looking for
> something comparable to a Subie Brat (good fuel economy but with a
> 2-spd case), I'd say the diesel Liberty fits the bill nicely. I'd say
> the Liberty has more off-road credentials then the Brat ever did.
>

That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>

-Matt

My sediments exactly, the Libby is like the Japanese Brat.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Mead wrote:
>
> Uh, yeah, but since the the discussion was started about looking for
> something comparable to a Subie Brat (good fuel economy but with a
> 2-spd case), I'd say the diesel Liberty fits the bill nicely. I'd say
> the Liberty has more off-road credentials then the Brat ever did.
>
> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4

This weekend I got 20.6 US mpg ( 24.5 UK mpg) over 620 miles @ 70-75mph.
Pretty good for a Wrangler I thought.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> My sediments exactly, the Libby is like the Japanese Brat.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
> >
> > Uh, yeah, but since the the discussion was started about looking for
> > something comparable to a Subie Brat (good fuel economy but with a
> > 2-spd case), I'd say the diesel Liberty fits the bill nicely. I'd say
> > the Liberty has more off-road credentials then the Brat ever did.
> >
> > Matt
> > 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ

Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
to know more. I've seen Hummers around, mostly H2s but one or two H1s
also, but don't know much more about them. I think they look
oversized and clumsy and are too expensive, but I don't know anything
about how they actually feel. Since I'm always interested in
learning, I would appreciate any insights you wish to offer.

> (and a Dodge 2500...)

> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:03:07 +1300, "dundee" >
> wrote:
>
>>isn't the hummer independent front.?

So does my F-150.

--
Stay away from a foolish man,
for you will not find knowledge on his lips.
Proverbs 14:7

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:46:16 GMT, Bonehenge wrote:
> On 13 Feb 2005 11:01:16 -0800, wrote:
>
>>The Baja definitely flopped. Subaru only sold it at first with leather
>>at a 26000+ cost. They tried to appeal to young active people but
>>proced it too high.
>
> And they made it butt-ugly.

Jah. There was one of those a few doors down from the townhouse I
lived in last year. I was never drawn by it as I drove by in my F-150
or BroncoII :-).

-D

--
"...Deep Hack Mode--that mysterious and frightening state of
consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread."
(By Matt Welsh)

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
> wrote:

>That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
>of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
>actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>
>
>-Matt


I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....

The Brat was definately cool in its day!

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4

"Derrick Hudson" > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>
> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
> to know more.

everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Someone has way too much time on their hands. ;-)
Snow up about roof level?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Speaking of the "Collier Welding Safety Cage", when is it going to make it's
debut ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
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> "Derrick Hudson" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
> >> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
> >
> > Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
> > to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> Someone has way too much time on their hands. ;-)

....just a dedication to providing information and entertainment to the
jeeping community. :-)


> Snow up about roof level?

nah, snow is almost completely gone. now that doesnt mean we wont get 12
feet before april, but for now its gone.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com