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How do I find a broken wire.
"mm" > wrote in message
... > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:47:46 -0600, "NotMe" > wrote: > >> >>"mm" > wrote in message . .. >>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:39:26 -0600, "NotMe" > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"mm" > wrote in message m... >>>>>I have a 100 foot orange extension cord that doesn't work. >>>>> >>>>> Usually when I cut one in half with a hedge trimmer, it's fairly easy >>>>> to find the defect. And then I fix it. >>>>> >>>>> Other times I use pins to check continuity near the plug or socket, >>>>> where cords usually break. >>>>> >>>>> But this time the problem is somewhere in the middle! If I worked for >>>>> the electric compnay, or the cable company, or even probably the gas >>>>> company, I'd have some clever tool that find open circuits in the >>>>> middle of wires, even underground. >>>>> >>>>> Is there something I have around the house or can buy cheaply that >>>>> will do this? >>>>> >>>>> I found for only 45 dollars an Armada Tone Probe, that works with a >>>>> tone generator, but I guess I want some method that is cheaper! >>>> >>>>If there is one bad section there will be more. What's more troubling >>>>is >>>>that an 'almost bad' section is the most dangerous as that can cause a >>>>fire. >>>> >>>>There are tricks to find the broken wire but if you know how you should >>>>then know the false wisdom of making the repair. >>> >>> I only use this cord outside, where a fire would not be a problem, >>> plugged into a GFI cirucit. >>> >>> So could you tell me the tricks for finding the open in the middle of >>> the cord? >> >>You may not plan to do otherwise but that does not forestall someone that >>does not know what you did from trying to use it on a heaver and unsafe >>load. >> >>Recall I *KNOW* what I'm doing > > How can I recall this when I know nothing about you? True but then you lack common sense. >>and would not 'fix' this extension cord >>myself nor would I let anyone near or dear to me near this patch job. >> >>Last the tricks work only if you know, well, what you're doing. > > Oh, yeah, sure. > >> The fact >>that you ask is a clear indication you don't know and could very well harm >>yourself or others in the process. > > LOL >> >>I'm not trying to be a horse's rear end but those are the facts. > > I read a lot of "facts" on the net. > > > Yes, it's hard to believe that the copper wire just broke for no good > reason, so if it broke in one place it must be totally deteriorating. > As you put it, "If there is one bad section there will be more." > > A) I don't think copper does that. It's does and that failure is documented in both fire and insurance claims. > B) The insulation could be falling apart everywhere, but it's not, > and the cord is not shorted. It's open. Like I said IF you knew what you were doing it would not be necessary to ask. > C) When I find the location of the break, I'll likely know a lot > more about what happened. True but not everything, > > > I apologize to everyone. I posted this in the wrong ng, and it was > OT. I asked elsewhere and got some very good ideas, including the use > of a non-contact voltage indicator, the use of an AM radio to pick up > interference from the cord, and feeling the cord for a bump where it > was bent sharply and the wire broken, but the insulation has partially > recovered. > > I don't know if any of these will work but it will be fun trying, when > it's warmer and I can stretch out the 100 foot cord. > > And even the suggestion to keep cuting the the cord in half and have > one good 50' foot cord, one good 25 foot cord, one good 12 foot cord. I'd vote for that but with the qualification the longest element be less than 1 ft long. Would you take a bungee cord that had a stress failure, tie a not at the break and jump from a bridge with that 'fix'? |
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How do I find a broken wire.
On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:52:26 -0600, "NotMe" > wrote:
>"mm" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:47:46 -0600, "NotMe" > wrote: >> >>> >>>"mm" > wrote in message ... >>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:39:26 -0600, "NotMe" > wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>"mm" > wrote in message om... >>>>>>I have a 100 foot orange extension cord that doesn't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Usually when I cut one in half with a hedge trimmer, it's fairly easy >>>>>> to find the defect. And then I fix it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Other times I use pins to check continuity near the plug or socket, >>>>>> where cords usually break. >>>>>> >>>>>> But this time the problem is somewhere in the middle! If I worked for >>>>>> the electric compnay, or the cable company, or even probably the gas >>>>>> company, I'd have some clever tool that find open circuits in the >>>>>> middle of wires, even underground. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there something I have around the house or can buy cheaply that >>>>>> will do this? >>>>>> >>>>>> I found for only 45 dollars an Armada Tone Probe, that works with a >>>>>> tone generator, but I guess I want some method that is cheaper! >>>>> >>>>>If there is one bad section there will be more. What's more troubling >>>>>is >>>>>that an 'almost bad' section is the most dangerous as that can cause a >>>>>fire. >>>>> >>>>>There are tricks to find the broken wire but if you know how you should >>>>>then know the false wisdom of making the repair. >>>> >>>> I only use this cord outside, where a fire would not be a problem, >>>> plugged into a GFI cirucit. >>>> >>>> So could you tell me the tricks for finding the open in the middle of >>>> the cord? >>> >>>You may not plan to do otherwise but that does not forestall someone that >>>does not know what you did from trying to use it on a heaver and unsafe >>>load. >>> >>>Recall I *KNOW* what I'm doing >> >> How can I recall this when I know nothing about you? > >True but then you lack common sense. > > >>>and would not 'fix' this extension cord >>>myself nor would I let anyone near or dear to me near this patch job. >>> >>>Last the tricks work only if you know, well, what you're doing. >> >> Oh, yeah, sure. >> >>> The fact >>>that you ask is a clear indication you don't know and could very well harm >>>yourself or others in the process. >> >> LOL >>> >>>I'm not trying to be a horse's rear end but those are the facts. >> >> I read a lot of "facts" on the net. >> >> >> Yes, it's hard to believe that the copper wire just broke for no good >> reason, so if it broke in one place it must be totally deteriorating. >> As you put it, "If there is one bad section there will be more." >> >> A) I don't think copper does that. > >It's does and that failure is documented in both fire and insurance claims. > >> B) The insulation could be falling apart everywhere, but it's not, >> and the cord is not shorted. It's open. > >Like I said IF you knew what you were doing it would not be necessary to >ask. > > >> C) When I find the location of the break, I'll likely know a lot >> more about what happened. > >True but not everything, > >> >> >> I apologize to everyone. I posted this in the wrong ng, and it was >> OT. I asked elsewhere and got some very good ideas, including the use >> of a non-contact voltage indicator, the use of an AM radio to pick up >> interference from the cord, and feeling the cord for a bump where it >> was bent sharply and the wire broken, but the insulation has partially >> recovered. >> >> I don't know if any of these will work but it will be fun trying, when >> it's warmer and I can stretch out the 100 foot cord. >> >> And even the suggestion to keep cuting the the cord in half and have >> one good 50' foot cord, one good 25 foot cord, one good 12 foot cord. > >I'd vote for that but with the qualification the longest element be less >than 1 ft long. > >Would you take a bungee cord that had a stress failure, tie a not at the >break and jump from a bridge with that 'fix'? > A very funny post. Thanks for the chuckles. |
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