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turning off the brake and anti-lock warning lights
Hello, I took my car, 92 Ford Explorer, to the emission inspection in
MA, and they had failed my car because of the brake and anti-lock warning lights that were on. I explained to the inspector that it is an on-going problem in my vechile and I have driven 20,000 miles on it without any brake problems. He insisted that I have to fix it because of the state's regulations. In the other hands, my mechanic doesn't think it is a problem that needs to be fixed. I would to find out anyway to fix it by myself with some level of detials of how to turn off those lights. Thanks - Wajih |
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That these lights are on is a sign of a problem.... this is brakes... thiose
things that stop us when we need to (and we never seem to get that second chance to stop). With the inspections I do in Alberta, I cannot pass a vehicle if a safety warning light is lit or does not prove out at key on. Your mechanic needs to realize that he has told you something that can have him in serious legal difficulties if you were to have an accident that involved your braking system. If someone were to be killed or seriously injured, he could/would become a party on the defendants side. FWIW, the ABS light is probably (and I mean *probably*) on in sympathy to the red brake warning light. The most common reasons for this to be on is the fluid level sensor, the park brake switch or the brake pressure differential switch. Look at it this way... these warning lights are on and someone feels they are on for a minor concern..... if they are already on, don't expect them to get brighter if something more serious happens. > wrote in message ups.com... > Hello, I took my car, 92 Ford Explorer, to the emission inspection in > MA, and they had failed my car because of the brake and anti-lock > warning lights that were on. > > I explained to the inspector that it is an on-going problem in my > vechile and I have driven 20,000 miles on it without any brake > problems. He insisted that I have to fix it because of the state's > regulations. In the other hands, my mechanic doesn't think it is a > problem that needs to be fixed. > > I would to find out anyway to fix it by myself with some level of > detials of how to turn off those lights. > > Thanks - Wajih > |
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Hello, Thank you for the reply. I see where is your concern, however I
spoke with three different mechanics (one of them is a Ford expert) in town and all of them agreed that the inspector shouldn't fail my vechile because it is an ABS problem. Many cars don't have ABS anyway. When ABS isn't working, the car's brake should still work. In the past, I bleeded the Brake fluid and changed the front rotors and bearings in addition to greasing the brakes but those two lights are still on. Many reports in the internet complains that this problem is very common in 92 Ford explorer? Do you agree? Many reports suggest to replace the ABS sensor ($30), however the dealer wants to change the whole ABS system ($1000) whereas the vechile can be sold for ($800). I am not a good mechanics and have a very limited budget, so whom should I believe? My most concern is the safety of my family and those who share the road with me. Tomorrow, I am taking my vechile to another mechanic and will get a report from him if it is a serious problem that has to be taken care of or if the red brake light turns on in sympathy to the ABS lights. I will keep you posted with the prgress. However, any other experience that any of you can share with me, would help me making a better decision of what to do. Thanks - Wajih Bill Funk wrote: > On 6 Jul 2005 17:02:33 -0700, wrote: > > >Hello, I took my car, 92 Ford Explorer, to the emission inspection in > >MA, and they had failed my car because of the brake and anti-lock > >warning lights that were on. > > > >I explained to the inspector that it is an on-going problem in my > >vechile and I have driven 20,000 miles on it without any brake > >problems. He insisted that I have to fix it because of the state's > >regulations. In the other hands, my mechanic doesn't think it is a > >problem that needs to be fixed. > > > >I would to find out anyway to fix it by myself with some level of > >detials of how to turn off those lights. > > > >Thanks - Wajih > > I have to agree with Jim. > Those lights are on because the system has detected a problem. That > neither you nor your mechanic (who, frankly, isn't too bright) can't > find a problem doesn't mean there isn't one. > Find a mechanic who knows brakes (your current mechanic clearly > doesn't - he's encouraging you to drive with what appears to be faulty > brakes; that's not what a mechanic should do) and have the brakes > checked to find what's setting the lights. > Brakes are not somethng you want to have fail on you. You certainly > should not be driving with brakes that are telling you "Hey, I've got > a problem here!" > > -- > Bill Funk > replace "g" with "a" > funktionality.blogspot.com |
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Hello Mark,
Thank you very much for the link. In fact, the inspector didn't physically try to stop the car on the wheel-running ramp/bay. He just noticed the red brake light and told me, the vechile had failed. So please, where does it say (explicitly) if the brake light is on, then it is not a problem? For your information, the inspection station is located at Mobile 9 gas station on Rt-9 in Amherst, MA area. I had many work-colleagues who seem to be having a hard luck with that inspector who had failed them all for ultimately no-sense reasons. They went to some other inspection station and their vechile passed. I could do the same thing, but I want my money back from that inspector. |
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As others have mentioned, inspection requirements are spelled out in the
inspection manual quite clearly. If an inspector "fudges", he/she can be disbarred, fined or even be unable to find work afterwards. Nothing will beat having the problem diagnosed by a competent mechanic... he/she will not come cheap but your cheapy guys appear to be leading you astray at the very least. Your Explorer is NOT a car.... it is a MACHINE. Machines need maintenance.... machines need repair. To leave a safety warning system "disabled" in this manner is (sorry to say) reprehensible and you are indeed putting lives at risk. I've said it before and I will say it again.... if you caqnnot afford to properly maintain your vehicle, you cannot afford to have a vehicle.... It may sound abrupt but it is, none-the-less, the truth. Imagine someone giving you a ride in a private plane and having them say "Oh, yeah.... I can't afford to have that fixed..." , or falling through a neighbours porch because they couldn't afford to have it fixed or eating a hamburger and having someone say they couldn't afford to have their fridge fixed..... The list goes on.... I'm sorry if I'm not telling you what you want to hear.... but I do believe that it is what you *have* to hear.... |
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Let's shed some light on this..... You mean to tell me that, if I climb into
a car (especially a car I don't know) with brake warning lights on, you are expecting me to drive this thing???? I've taken way too many road tests that, after inspection, I feel lucky to return from..... Apparently, someone, somewhere, feels that techs are expendable. While some may be daring enough to take risks on our highways and byways, I will feel much safer on my "donorcycle" than I will in a car with warning lights ablaze... .. |
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Hello - I am having four *different* (professional/not cheap) mechanics
looking at it and one of them has some contact with Ford dealer. If the four guys said it is not a problem that we have nothing to worry about, then I will take their report and show it to RMV and the inspector. So far, two of them said just ignore it. The third recommended replacing a sensor which I forgot what is for, and we are waiting till Monday to get that piece. I will keep you posted. |
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