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Old April 20th 06, 05:15 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
supreme court decisions.

This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
course.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/vid...p10436,00.html


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Old April 20th 06, 06:31 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
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>
> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
> supreme court decisions.
>
> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
> course.


Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."

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Old April 20th 06, 06:49 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
>
> "Brent P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
>> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
>> supreme court decisions.
>>
>> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
>> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
>> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
>> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
>> course.


> Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
> working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."


You only consider it trolling because you're a government cheerleader.

It isn't anything like that at all. I don't see how it could be labeled
'liberal' at all unless you are as I always suspected, pro-police state.
Only the most ardent police state cheerleader would consider it 'liberal'
not to kick people out on the street with nothing, bulldozing their homes
using government power so a developer can put up new condos. Maybe a
bulldozer should show up at your home one day and plow it into the ground
so you'll understand exactly what it is like.

You should familiarize yourself with the new london case. Especially the
court decision afterwards that left the people who fought to keep their
homes with NOTHING, even less than nothing (debt) as a punishment for
fighting it.

You should watch the video again, you can see the cops there and learn
what you'll likely be doing in a few more years the way things are going.

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Old April 20th 06, 07:15 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >, jaybird wrote:
>>
>> "Brent P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
>>> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
>>> supreme court decisions.
>>>
>>> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have
>>> too
>>> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london
>>> decision
>>> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
>>> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
>>> course.

>
>> Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
>> working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."

>
> You only consider it trolling because you're a government cheerleader.
>
> It isn't anything like that at all. I don't see how it could be labeled
> 'liberal' at all unless you are as I always suspected, pro-police state.
> Only the most ardent police state cheerleader would consider it 'liberal'
> not to kick people out on the street with nothing, bulldozing their homes
> using government power so a developer can put up new condos. Maybe a
> bulldozer should show up at your home one day and plow it into the ground
> so you'll understand exactly what it is like.
>
> You should familiarize yourself with the new london case. Especially the
> court decision afterwards that left the people who fought to keep their
> homes with NOTHING, even less than nothing (debt) as a punishment for
> fighting it.
>
> You should watch the video again, you can see the cops there and learn
> what you'll likely be doing in a few more years the way things are going.


You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class person
just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum, never asked the
government for money, and never done anything to cause myself to live in a
street and ask others to support me. I left home when I was able, supported
myself, and have made a pretty good living over the years.

It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

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Old April 20th 06, 07:31 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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In article >, jaybird wrote:

> You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class person
> just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum, never asked the
> government for money, and never done anything to cause myself to live in a
> street and ask others to support me. I left home when I was able, supported
> myself, and have made a pretty good living over the years.


How is asking not to have your home bulldozed and being kicked out into
the street by the government "liberal" ? Don't you understand, it's the
'blue-collar-working-class' that is getting their homes bulldozed in
china so that new private developments can go up in their place. It is
'blue-collar-working-class' people in New London that were kicked out of
their homes to build a new private development. It's 'blue-collar-working-class' people
who have been kicked out of their homes in other parts of the USA for the
same thing.

When it's your home, and your ass out on the street, it won't be so
"liberal" to ask to be left the **** alone by the government.

> It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
> doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
> citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.


So it's now criminal to want to keep your property, namely one's HOME? Guess
you've been getting that government training where property rights
activists are now considered to be "terrorists".

You can say it's not a police state, but then you follow it up with a
statement that shows it very well is.


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Old April 20th 06, 09:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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(Brent P) wrote in
:

> In article >, jaybird wrote:
>
>> You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class
>> person just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum,
>> never asked the government for money, and never done anything to
>> cause myself to live in a street and ask others to support me. I
>> left home when I was able, supported myself, and have made a pretty
>> good living over the years.

>
> How is asking not to have your home bulldozed and being kicked out
> into the street by the government "liberal" ? Don't you understand,
> it's the 'blue-collar-working-class' that is getting their homes
> bulldozed in china so that new private developments can go up in their
> place. It is 'blue-collar-working-class' people in New London that
> were kicked out of their homes to build a new private development.
> It's 'blue-collar-working-class' people who have been kicked out of
> their homes in other parts of the USA for the same thing.
>
> When it's your home, and your ass out on the street, it won't be so
> "liberal" to ask to be left the **** alone by the government.
>
>> It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads
>> high, doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law
>> abiding citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

>
> So it's now criminal to want to keep your property, namely one's HOME?
> Guess you've been getting that government training where property
> rights activists are now considered to be "terrorists".
>
> You can say it's not a police state, but then you follow it up with a
> statement that shows it very well is.
>
>
>


It's not a "police state",it's becoming a SOCIALIST State.
They are the ones who believe the state should have such powers,that people
need to surrender their property for the "good of all".(wealth
redistribution)
This is what you get when liberals get elected;they seat socialist USSC and
Federal judges who allow this sort of crap.
That is their political goal;to implement socialist change through court
rulings rather than amend the Constitution,because amendment is much more
difficult,as it was intended to be.

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Old April 20th 06, 06:56 PM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, jaybird wrote:
>
>> You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class person
>> just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum, never asked
>> the
>> government for money, and never done anything to cause myself to live in
>> a
>> street and ask others to support me. I left home when I was able,
>> supported
>> myself, and have made a pretty good living over the years.

>
> How is asking not to have your home bulldozed and being kicked out into
> the street by the government "liberal" ? Don't you understand, it's the
> 'blue-collar-working-class' that is getting their homes bulldozed in
> china so that new private developments can go up in their place. It is
> 'blue-collar-working-class' people in New London that were kicked out of
> their homes to build a new private development. It's
> 'blue-collar-working-class' people
> who have been kicked out of their homes in other parts of the USA for the
> same thing.
>
> When it's your home, and your ass out on the street, it won't be so
> "liberal" to ask to be left the **** alone by the government.


But that's my point. I have chosen to make a good life for myself and am
not in a position where someone is going to come and kick me out of my
house.

>
>> It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads
>> high,
>> doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
>> citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

>
> So it's now criminal to want to keep your property, namely one's HOME?
> Guess
> you've been getting that government training where property rights
> activists are now considered to be "terrorists".
>
> You can say it's not a police state, but then you follow it up with a
> statement that shows it very well is.


Ok, well then let's leave the cop part out of it. Unless my house somehow
becomes unsafe to live in and gets condemned, no one is going to be coming
to kick me out of it.

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Old April 22nd 06, 03:27 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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In article >,
jaybird > wrote:
>
>It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
>doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
>citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.


There aren't any law abiding citizens who drive, so pretty much
anybody can get jacked up by the cops.
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Old April 24th 06, 08:39 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> jaybird > wrote:
>>
>>It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
>>doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
>>citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

>
> There aren't any law abiding citizens who drive, so pretty much
> anybody can get jacked up by the cops.


Guess that depends on your definition of jacked up, whether that's a ticket
or a use of force.

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Your life is not my fault.


 




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