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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, mike gray wrote:
> > So when you said "faulty computer systems" you meant "a fault > > somewhere in some system either feeding or fed by the computer, but > > quite possibly not directly related to the computer itself in any way > > shape or form?" And later when you said "Fortunately for most folks, > > the ECU can deliver all sorts of bogus data with impunity" you didn't > > actually mean the ECU? > I try to be a little more trenchant than that. ^^^^^^^^^ You've misspelt "incoherent". |
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hmmmm he did a fine job
One entry found for trenchant. Main Entry: tren·chant Pronunciation: -ch&nt Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, present participle of trenchier 1 : KEEN, SHARP 2 : vigorously effective and articulate <a trenchant analysis>; also : CAUSTIC <trenchant remarks> 3 a : sharply perceptive : PENETRATING b : CLEAR-CUT, DISTINCT <the trenchant divisions between right and wrong -- Edith Wharton> - tren·chant·ly adverb "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message n.umich.edu... > On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, mike gray wrote: > > > > So when you said "faulty computer systems" you meant "a fault > > > somewhere in some system either feeding or fed by the computer, but > > > quite possibly not directly related to the computer itself in any way > > > shape or form?" And later when you said "Fortunately for most folks, > > > the ECU can deliver all sorts of bogus data with impunity" you didn't > > > actually mean the ECU? > > > I try to be a little more trenchant than that. > ^^^^^^^^^ > > You've misspelt "incoherent". |
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hmmmm he did a fine job
One entry found for trenchant. Main Entry: tren·chant Pronunciation: -ch&nt Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, present participle of trenchier 1 : KEEN, SHARP 2 : vigorously effective and articulate <a trenchant analysis>; also : CAUSTIC <trenchant remarks> 3 a : sharply perceptive : PENETRATING b : CLEAR-CUT, DISTINCT <the trenchant divisions between right and wrong -- Edith Wharton> - tren·chant·ly adverb "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message n.umich.edu... > On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, mike gray wrote: > > > > So when you said "faulty computer systems" you meant "a fault > > > somewhere in some system either feeding or fed by the computer, but > > > quite possibly not directly related to the computer itself in any way > > > shape or form?" And later when you said "Fortunately for most folks, > > > the ECU can deliver all sorts of bogus data with impunity" you didn't > > > actually mean the ECU? > > > I try to be a little more trenchant than that. > ^^^^^^^^^ > > You've misspelt "incoherent". |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:53:39 -0500, Matt Whiting
> wrote: >mike gray wrote: > >> Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> >>> mike gray > writes: >>> >>>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>>> >> mike gray wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Show me a car over four years old without faulty computer >>>> systems.... >>>> > It's funny how this myth lingers on. >>>> >>>> Just like the myth that the earth is a globe. >>> >>> >>> If I were in a pedantic mood, I'd point out it's not. Very close, >>> though. >>> >>>> Just like the myth that operating systems can crash. >>> >>> >>>> What percentage of recalls are for computer problems? >>> >>> >>> Dunno -- but I sure hear of a lot more for mechanical problems. >>> >>>> And how old is the computer on which you wrote yer reply? >>> >>> >>> I'd have to check -- but it's a 700 MHz Athlon, and the chip had just >>> come out when I bought it. Though this is about as relevant as >>> everything else you wrote except the question about percentage of >>> recalls. >> >> >> And as relevant as the myth of computer infallibility. > >Nobody said computers were infallible, just not prone to a high rate of >failure as you assert. > > >> If I were in a pedantic mood, I'd point out that it is not -34 degrees >> here in SoFla, though my vehicle's computer sets the fuel mix there, nor >> is the proper voltage 22, though that's what the ECU insists on >> delivering to the battery. > >One computer failure does not a trend establish. Now you sound like Yoda. |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 17:53:39 -0500, Matt Whiting
> wrote: >mike gray wrote: > >> Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> >>> mike gray > writes: >>> >>>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>>> >> mike gray wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Show me a car over four years old without faulty computer >>>> systems.... >>>> > It's funny how this myth lingers on. >>>> >>>> Just like the myth that the earth is a globe. >>> >>> >>> If I were in a pedantic mood, I'd point out it's not. Very close, >>> though. >>> >>>> Just like the myth that operating systems can crash. >>> >>> >>>> What percentage of recalls are for computer problems? >>> >>> >>> Dunno -- but I sure hear of a lot more for mechanical problems. >>> >>>> And how old is the computer on which you wrote yer reply? >>> >>> >>> I'd have to check -- but it's a 700 MHz Athlon, and the chip had just >>> come out when I bought it. Though this is about as relevant as >>> everything else you wrote except the question about percentage of >>> recalls. >> >> >> And as relevant as the myth of computer infallibility. > >Nobody said computers were infallible, just not prone to a high rate of >failure as you assert. > > >> If I were in a pedantic mood, I'd point out that it is not -34 degrees >> here in SoFla, though my vehicle's computer sets the fuel mix there, nor >> is the proper voltage 22, though that's what the ECU insists on >> delivering to the battery. > >One computer failure does not a trend establish. Now you sound like Yoda. |
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mike gray wrote:
> Ol' Duffer wrote: > >> Here's my idea: Since most vehicles seem to be going toward >> onboard computers anyway, why not install a LAN port in the >> dashboard with a web server applet and burn the manual files >> into flash memory? Each vehicle would be furnished with the >> latest information as it comes down the assembly line, and >> you could even do automatic updates via XM radio satellite >> feed. Anyone with a network enabled computer could view the >> files, print out pages if needed, maintain service logs, etc. > > > But how would you figure out how to repair the defective flash memory? > > Show me a car over four years old without faulty computer systems.... i would sure hate to be you your life sucks |
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mike gray wrote:
> Ol' Duffer wrote: > >> Here's my idea: Since most vehicles seem to be going toward >> onboard computers anyway, why not install a LAN port in the >> dashboard with a web server applet and burn the manual files >> into flash memory? Each vehicle would be furnished with the >> latest information as it comes down the assembly line, and >> you could even do automatic updates via XM radio satellite >> feed. Anyone with a network enabled computer could view the >> files, print out pages if needed, maintain service logs, etc. > > > But how would you figure out how to repair the defective flash memory? > > Show me a car over four years old without faulty computer systems.... i would sure hate to be you your life sucks |
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